Game of Thrones Season 5 Episode 3 – High Sparrow – Open Chat

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Game of Thrones Season 5, Episode 3: “High Sparrow”

Writers: David Benioff & D.B. Weiss
Director: Mark Mylod
Runtime: 60 minutes
Content Warnings: TV-MA: Adult Content, Adult Language, Graphic Violence, Nudity
Synopsis: In Braavos, Arya sees the Many-Faced God. In King’s Landing, Queen Margaery enjoys her new husband. Tyrion and Varys walk the Long Bridge of Volantis.
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    1. I hope Arya/Braavos is featured a lot in this episode

      (since she doesn’t appear in episode 4 from what ive read)

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    2. Tyrion Pimpslap:
      Just how high is this Sparrow? I thought there wasn’t any weed in Westeros?

      Yeah, that’s the most sad part of the 7K… need to go to Yi Ti, I dont know why but something tells me they have some good pot over there ! =D

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    3. Welcome back to the Family Bolton. Looks like an awesome episode, especially with appearances by Roose and Jaqen. However, depending on the goings-on in the Mets-Yankees game, I may be watching the late broadcast.

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    4. ColdPie:
      hoping for some good Roose and Ramsay tonight!

      I’m hoping for more Fat Walda!

      What? We all have our favorite even-beyond-tertiary characters, don’t we?

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    5. afartherroom: I’m hoping for more Fat Walda!

      What? We all have our favorite even-beyond-tertiary characters, don’t we?

      Vaaaaal !!!

      Sorry, already out !

      Although at this rate, my favorite show tertiary (or even less) character is Ghost.

      Need more Ghost !

      And we do not have a single “badass” Jon and Ghost show side by side ! I know it’s useless to get Ghost top of the Wall but c’mon show, one of these days, gimme Jon and Ghost staring at the world from top of the Wall !

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    6. I know that me saying this will come as a shock to most of you, but this is actually a pretty good episode.

      There. I said it.

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    7. Btw, there is speculation going on that littlefinger sent Cersei the snake necklace to distract her… If its true, its genius

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    8. Yung Wolf:
      I know that me saying this will come as a shock to most of you, but this is actually a pretty good episode.
      There. I said it.

      Tell me Jaime Lannister and/or Jon Snow are in it and I shall be happy.
      Oh and also Jaqen, Arya and Tyrion. Okay, so I’m fickle. 😉

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    9. So many Ep. 3 & 4 scenes are now on youtube ……. but they all sound like chipmunks, who have inhaled like a LOT of helium, and the picture is so blurry. Can’t wait to see and hear Ep. 3 the right way on our big, bad Samsung flat screen. Really liking this season so far!

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    10. Fuck, can a mod please edit my last post.

      Used improper spoiler code and can’t edit.

      Really, really need a spoiler button in the text editor!

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    11. It find it SOOO stupid that towerofthehand.com user episode ratings for one and two are currently 7.38 and 7.30. During previous seasons even the absolute “worst” episodes weren’t rated that low by them. The ‘weaker’ episodes have usually been in the high 7’s. In fact, those user ratings make the first two season five episodes the lowest rated overall on the site by far, which is total bullshit.

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    12. The great thing about this episode is [redacted] but I didn’t like [redacted]. I’d love to hear everyone’s thoughts on [redacted]. It really sets up the interesting part of the next episode which is [redacted].

      [redacted][redacted][redacted] [redacted]

      /every post in every thread for the first month of the airing of this show.

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    13. Clob:
      It find it SOOO stupid that towerofthehand.com user episode ratings for one and two are currently 7.38 and 7.30.During previous seasons even the absolute “worst” episodes weren’t rated that low by them.The ‘weaker’ episodes have usually been in the high 7’s.In fact, those user ratings make the first two season five episodes the lowest rated overall on the site by far, which is total bullshit.

      Book purists.. What did you expected?

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    14. Clob,

      I enjoy the site, but not for anything show related. It’s still mostly a book reader haven, and most posters don’t like when the show changes/cuts anything. To read some of the comments, many of them will stop watching either during or after this season, so as not to have anything spoiled. Although, I question how anything other than the ultimate ruler and the outcome of the battle against the Others could really be considered a spoiler at this point, considering the differences.

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    15. *this is lame, the fact we cannot discuss ep 3-4*
      *waiting for ep 5 ……*

      You and your like chose to not wait, no ones fault but your own. You’ll just have to live with it for another two weeks.

      Looking forward to this eve; its fun being unsullied for a change!

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    16. I am not sure if anyone saw this yet, but content at wic gets more pathetic by the day. “Could the creatures of game of thrones really exist” Thank god we have this site with actual useful content..

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    17. Darren,

      I completely agree. After hearing Cersei say only 2 of those necklaces exist & going back to see the one given to Sansa, I’m thoroughly convinced she came up with the whole idea herself to get Jaime away

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    18. HelloThere,

      There is also speculation that Cersei made it herself to get Jaime out of her hair and to get Myrcella back (which she allows herself now that Tywin is dead). Which she does because of the prophecy starting to become true.

      Then, later, Jaime finds out and decides he’s done with Cersei. Which happens in the books through different circumstances.

      Either way, I doubt anyone in Dorne actually sent the threat. It’s definitely not Doran. Ellaria only asked Doran to act after the message was sent, so it probably wasn’t her either (she’d want to see if Doran is on her side BEFORE acting behind his back) and it definitely doesn’t seem like a move the Sand Snakes would do. All it does is escalate the situation between Dorne and King’s Landing, it doesn’t gain Dorne anything.

      Watch the scene again and see it as Cersei manipulating Jaime. It works all too well. The alternatives are Littlefinger and Varys.

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    19. ColdFeet:
      Darren,
      I completely agree. After hearing Cersei say only 2 of those necklaces exist & going back to see the one given to Sansa, I’m thoroughly convinced she came up with the whole idea herself to get Jaime away

      Or it could be a continuity error on the part of the producers. *shrug*

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    20. Kay,

      Yeah, I’ve seen Rila Fukushima in other things before too, but that look gave me chills. One of the scenes in the episode that made me fear for characters that we thought were safe…which was the goal.

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    21. ColdFeet,

      Or it’s just poor writing! Like Talisa writing suspicious letters all the time… I mean, they could have made Marcella in episode 2 ask Trystane about her missing necklace, or make Ellaria mention to Doran sending it to Cersei, just to communicate that it really was the Dornish. Or just change the necklace design.

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    22. In case anyone is interested, this is what appeared on my tv this morning when I pressed the “info” button for tonight’s episode. I’ll put it under spoiler code, even though it appears to merely be an updated synopsis:

      “Cersei meets the High Sparrow after learning of a clergyman’s embarrassing tale. Meanwhile, Davos talks to Jon about the future of Winterfell, where Ramsay Snow has just learned the identity of his future bride.”

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    23. Pigeon,

      Yeah, it kinda did. I didn’t realize synopses were updated day of…I’ll be checking for them each Sunday morning, now.

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    24. mau: Book purists.. What did you expected?

      Two giant deviations from the source, far bigger than anything before, that are neither internally consistent or rational from the position of the characters involved. Yeah, book fans don’t like it. Why should they?

      Last week we saw Jaime meekly being cowed into going on a suicide mission that has about a rat’s chance in hell of being successful and a high probability of getting him, his daughter, and Bronn killed AND starting a war the Lannisters really don’t need.

      This week, Ramsay gets to meet his bride. We can discuss that steaming pile of contradictions in a few hours.

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    25. Chad Brick,

      I’m not entirely convinced elements of what it sounds like will be happening in this and upcoming episodes (in Winterfell) are giant deviations from the source. I think it’s possible something along these lines may happen in TWOW, although no one will know until it is published. I could be completely wrong, of course.

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    26. KrakenDaughter,

      I was just pointing out that it could be a sloppy writing choice just as well as it could be Cersei scheming to get Jaime out of the capital to rescue Marcella (which would be actually very clever writing). It’s hard to tell with the show’s writers. The show has a history of sloppy writing and/or directorial choices. My example off the top of my head was Talisa, but there’s also the sept scene, Yara’s Pointless Adventure To The Dreadfort, Jon’s Pointless Adventure To Craster’s Keep.

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    27. Chad Brick,

      Oh, great, we look forward to your discussion of the deviations…

      I’ll just say, both have some basis from the books. Balon Swann is sent by Cersei to bring Myrcella back to KL,

      Ramsay marries a girl pretending to be a Stark, and Littlefinger has plans to use Sansa to secure the North.

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    28. Dogs,

      This would be far from sloppy writing… It would most likely be a mistake on the props department…

      But I’ve seen podcasts from people who visit the sets who claim that GOT is way too meticulous w/ their props and costumes, and an oversight like this would be highly unlikely.

      Also, people complaining about Jaime’s plotline…. Tell me exactly how Balon Swann going to Dorne to bring back Marcella is any less a suicide mission or any less likely to not start a war w/ the Dornish….. Hes a kingsguard which makes him just as alligned w/ the Lannisters as Jaime.

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    29. Dogs,

      Jon’s mission to Crasters’ was not pointless. It is set up quite well in the show, and it was used in Sam’s nomination speech last episode.

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    30. HelloThere,

      That doesn’t make it “pointless”. There was a lot of filler in seasons 3 and 4 because they stretched a single book out over 20 episodes. The mission was to take out the mutineers before Mance’s army reached them and found out the NW was in disarray, as well as to bring them to justice. And there was payoff during Sam’s speech last week. It was not pointless.

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    31. HelloThere,

      Yeah, I was talking with someone about this the other day. While it isn’t this simple, Jaime going to Dorne is, at its most basic,

      one member of the Kingsguard being substituted for another…in terms of show versus books.

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    32. Tyrion Pimpslap,

      All right, but it is arguably pointless in terms of Jon and Bran’s greater character development. Jon leans to fight less honourably? Bran repeats the same choice (however more blatant this time) in the same situation he was faced with in season 3 episode 9? The raid did work, and was set up all right, but my overall point was more on the actual execution of the scene where the writing is incredibly sloppy. None of the Craster’s wives, nor Karl while fighting Jon, mention to Jon that Bran, or at least a crippled boy with a giant, was literally just in the shack a minute before Jon shows up. And why would Locke be scouting if both Grenn and Edd were already captured at Craster’s and theoretically know the tactical situation already? A lot of peoples’ practical gripes about the Yara scene could be similarly lensed onto the Craster’s raid without satisfactory answers.

      And, edit, but to make it clearer, I’m just throwing it out there that it could be some sort of sloppy production/writing/directing choice just as well as it could be a subtle move on the part of Cersei, as this show is not perfect and has a history of sometimes discarding thorough attention to story details for the overall effect or point of a scene, which is fine if it all works out!

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    33. I’m Sullied but I still can’t understand people that think the show has to follow the books verbatim, or even why one would want it to do so. It becomes more ridiculous now that the program is moving beyond the written material. In my opinion any change so far has been very minor anyways. Besides that, AFfC and ADwD have some very slow and uninteresting storylines that even purists admitted to when the books were reviewed. I HATED everything Dorne in the books so much so that I felt like skipping every chapter of which on first read. I’m all for the show spicing it up with characters like Jaime and Bronn, both of which do nothing in the remaining published material worth filming/watching. I have absolute confidence that the storylines in the show for the main characters will be very close to what they eventually are in the books. If there are slight differences between now and then, so be it. I’ll look at it as “more story.”

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    34. Sansa speculation:

      Everyone is assuming that she will take the place of Jayne Poole/FakeArya, but there is one glaring difficulty that LF brings up (as best as I can recall) in AFFC regarding the Harry the Heir plot. Namely, Sansa is still married by law to Tyrion. Perhaps in the show Cersi or Tommon will issue a Royal Annulment as the marriage was never consummated and the spouses are both wanted fugitives. So wanted, in fact, that Cersi more likely just wants them dead and future marriage plots involving Sansa are not even a consideration. Perhaps Myranda is our FakeArya after all, and Sansa will be forced to speak for her identity at the wedding with Theon? This also has it’s problems…mainly that Myranda is far to old to pose as Arya. There might still be a Fake Arya that LF has hidden away somewhere, but I don’t know if any actress was cast in the roll of “Girl” or if they will just use a featured extra. I think it’s been pretty much established that the FakeArya plot as been more or less excised from the show, but I still hold out hope. But what is the alternative? Have Sansa pose as Arya? Have Sansa wed Ramsey openly, with the Boltons and LF swearing to the Crown that Winterfell will be her prison for life? Or with Tywin dead, do they think they can get away with it? And why would LF want Sansa out of his reach?

      Interesting to see what D&D do!

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    35. I find myself torn between the two camps: Book purists and the show only crowd. A Sullied book reader, I don’t want to spoil the show for those that have yet to read the books.

      If I could, I’d want to be involved with the production of the show, and try to advocate for more lines from the books to make it into the episodes. If only we could have 20 episodes a season! Now imagine mustering twice the budget and wrangling twice the cast and crew! Oh well.

      They had to streamline the show. Rather than viewing the changes as filler, I see where they’ve decided to cut material out, while keeping the overall trajectory in place. I understand why Indira Varma’s Ellaria Sand has been combined with Arianne Martell: they get to utilize Varma’s talent without having to cast for Arianne. I still disagree with that choice, but I understand it 🙂

      I appreciate the humor of Gilly referring to Osric Stark as “Ostrich Stark,” in the scene where Samwell Tarly’s researching the history of the Lord Commanders to prepare for his Jon Snow stump speech. Book purists might point out that Gilly wouldn’t have seen an ostrich [I’m looking at you, Elio & Linda], but I still like that scene. Shireen Baratheon, spreading literacy to the Seven Kingdoms.

      This season’s bound to have rough patches. I expect that. (Hopefully, none as grievous as having “Yara” (cough Asha) fleeing Ramsay’s dogs.) Another expectation: next season, HBO won’t send out more than the first episode as a screener for reviewers.

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    36. JS,

      I imagine they’ll handwave it with the fact that the fact that the marriage was never consummated, thus it’s not valid. And before purists whine, that would be entirely true to life in the Middle Ages where marriages were annulled left right and centre due to parties supposedly overlooking the coital aspect of relationships. For, er, a good 8 months or so. But the king said so, so it must be true…

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    37. I’m predicting renewed anarchy over the changing of a certain line for a certain scene that will be hashed over til the end of days.

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    38. Pigeon,

      Dammit…I had forgotten about that. It isn’t your fault, you were as cryptic as cryptic could be, but someone spoiled me on that on another thread the other day. Hisssssssss.

      WeirwoodTreeHugger,

      btw – That’s an adorable calico in your av. 🙂

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    39. I succumbed and watched the leaked episodes. It’s only made me even more excited for tonight!

      The Bolton stuff is the best. “The North Remembers”

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    40. Pigeon,

      Then people are stupid. Moment such as Littlefinger killing Lysa are memorable for the event itself. “Only Cat” matters for what it meant, not for the specific words used. The same goes for many other famous quotes, such as “X, fetch me the Y.” The decision that this line entails is what actually matters, not the line itself. And the decision, as well as the moment of revelation, will of course remain, no matter the words they used; just as with Littlefinger and Lysa.

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    41. Pigeon:
      I’m predicting renewed anarchy over the changing of a certain line for a certain scene that will be hashed over til the end of days.

      I mourned for that line being missing, too. But, the end result was the same. Muwhahaha!

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    42. Pigeon,

      Of course. Some people in the fandom never cease to disappoint. However, we mustn’t forget it’s just a few bad apples. Most book readers don’t care about (or remember) such details, thank God. Of course, these fans are not as active in forums and sites (or as loud) as the idiots, but oh well. That’s an overall human problem; the ASOIAF / GOT fandom isn’t gonna fix it any time soon.

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    43. Luka Nieto,

      Scenes that are done incredibly well, imo, don’t rely on the exact same words to give you chills. Anticipation DOES make a person wait for them, I do understand that, but as a book/show IMpurist (I appreciate and criticize both of their own accord)….if it’s done right, it’s done right.

      And is it ever done right.

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    44. Pigeon:
      I’m predicting renewed anarchy over the changing of a certain line for a certain scene that will be hashed over til the end of days.

      I always like when D&D provoke book purists. When a person is obsessed about such unimportant detail , that person deserves to be disappointed .

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    45. Chad Brick: Two giant deviations from the source, far bigger than anything before, that are neither internally consistent or rational from the position of the characters involved. Yeah, book fans don’t like it. Why should they?

      They could criticize, but I don’t really care.

      Last week we saw Jaime meekly being cowed into going on a suicide mission that has about a rat’s chance in hell of being successful and a high probability of getting him, his daughter, and Bronn killed AND starting a war the Lannisters really don’t need.

      He explained his reasons. If you do not like them, it’s your problem, but you can’t say that they are not consistent or rational from the position of the character involved. It is absurd.

      He is responsible for the death of his father and he will do anything to make things better.

      He don’t want to start a war, but he don’t want to ask Doran for permission.

      But I understand. That wasn’t in the books, and of course it doesen’t make sense. It would be much better to watch Jaime doing nothing for a whole season in Riverlands. I agree.

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    46. I’m very much looking forward to the series returning to Winterfell for the first time since Season 2 (leaving aside the opening credits, and the distant glimpse that we were afforded last season). And, of course, welcoming back all those characters who call it home – past, present, and future.

      I’m also looking forward to the worst-kept secret among the fandom this side of Jaime going to Dorne finally entering the public domain. It will be … ahem … interesting to see the reactions from people who have somehow a) managed to avoid being spoiled or b) not pieced together what is happening from context clues in the first two episodes. Axey’s Twitter recap will be a must-read this week (as it is every week, but I wouldn’t miss this one for the world).

      Personally, having overcome whatever initial concerns I may have had, I am fully on board. The storyline in question is the one I’m most anticipating this year, and I can’t wait to see how it plays out the over rest of the season.

      WeirwoodTreeHugger,

      This is a mortal lock. It’s absolutely going to happen, and when it does, it’s going to be hilarious. The only question is whether or not TWOW will be released in a timely enough fashion to facilitate the worst offenders being called out on their hypocrisy. More likely, enough time will pass before the books are released that they’ll be able to pretend it never happened.

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    47. I have the feeling I’m going to like this one. All set to go!

      King Tommen,

      That’s funny, Your Highness! I think [redacted] has the opportunity to be a really [redacted] for the [redacted] storyline. Then again maybe not. We’ll see tonight. (Hopefully I did this right, and you understood everything :p)

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    48. Pigeon,

      I was dissappointed when I heard they had changed the line, but when I saw the episode, it was just damn well delivered, so I had no problem with it. The preceeding humor was just priceless, by the way.

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    49. Just watched the first episode again and caught some potential foreshadowing that I’m not sure has been mentioned or not but I thought I’d share since it would be something new for book readers as well. Daenerys is talking about the Sons of the Harpy when she says “angry snakes lash out. It makes chopping off their heads that much easier” could this be foreshadowing for the death of a Sandsnake? It would be just like when Littlefinger mentioned men dying on the privy.

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    50. also regarding my last comment Im sorry if spoiler tags aren’t showing up entered them but for me no cover is showing up

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    51. Pigeon:
      I’m predicting renewed anarchy over the changing of a certain line for a certain scene that will be hashed over til the end of days.

      It will be “your sister” on steroids. LOL

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    52. ServantOfLight,

      You’re probably right, the solution is probably more simple than I thought. Perhaps too simple considering all the variables. The show has managed to adequately tiptoe around changes they have made for simplicity most of the time (the exception being any scene that replaces conversations important to later character motivations with conversations about beetles). At least having Brienne’s divergent storyline intertwine with this one looks like it will pay off.

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    53. Gods, Brienne has to be the most boring character in GoT. I feel like we’ve heard this story a million times before. Same scene over and over and over.

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    54. I love the books and I love the show, although I love the books more. My biggest problems are what I assume to be with the directing, editing, and writing. I can’t imagine having to pay all the incredible actors that are on the show, so splitting roles (or dicing them!) seems valid and necessary. It’s the things that are dumb (fart jokes, seriously?), unnecessary (Children of the Forest fire bomb?), pointless (Yara’s 5 second quest) that bother me, or horrendous (the sept scene rape). So far this season is going really well….and I hope I didn’t just jinx it!

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    55. Olly takes Edd’s place as Jon’s Squire. Did they forget they didn’t kill Edd or something? EDD IS STILL ALIVE D&D.

      Oh, they know…..**** Olly.

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    56. WeirwoodTreeHugger,

      I love her name!

      Simeon: It will be “your sister” on steroids. LOL

      Hopefully not on steroids, but at least as bad.

      Then again, just like “your sister,” it changes the meaning of the line from the books soooooooooooooo much. hahaha.

      So, did anyone else catch “Jaqen’s” line about how Arya knows there is only one god, and she knows his name???

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    57. Best 3rd episode of a season yet. Whatever you feel about what’s going on with Sansa and LF, their scenes are great, particularly LF and Roose. Aiden has really upped his game this season, and Michael McElhatton is superb as Roose. That voice!

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    58. Ahhhhhhh. Sooo good. I ate up every second. The only thing that bothered me is that I still don’t understand LFs angle here! Like, wtf Sansa is going to do, and what LF expects Her to do???

      But that itself (not knowing) is so exciting you guys I am freaking out ahhhhhhhgh waiting this week will be harder, but I will do it, damnit.

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    59. A solid 9.5/10 from me.

      The North Remembers literally brought me to tears. Not figuratively, literally. A faint flicker of hope in a raging sea of shit.

      I loved much with this episode, though I was dismayed that they left out Edd’s block fetching duties. At least they left the nod in, which was the important part. And it was so immensely more pleasing to see Janos’ head getting lopped off than just reading it.

      Loved Margaery’s dig at Cersei’s wine addiction and her overall lording it over the Queen B. I rather like Tommen, but, well, we know where that’s headed now, don’t we. And we got the first hint of FrankenGregor!! (“Oh, Rocky!!”)

      Interesting how they’re setting Brienne up against Stannis. VERY interesting, in fact; whether it’s made up from whole cloth or not we’ll find out next year sometime (we hope), though I suspect D&D fabricated it themselves.

      Liking the HoBAW and I look forward to Cat Of The Canals. Oh, and Tommen, isn’t that more fun than stamping papers with the royal seal?

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    60. My favorite episode this season. Loved Jon, and I normally do not love the show’s Jon. Loved seeing Roose again. I missed the guy :’) Things are coming together!

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    61. Yung Wolf:
      Gods, Brienne has to be the most boring character in GoT. I feel like we’ve heard this story a million times before. Same scene over and over and over.

      Its only worse in the books! Hers has been the most boring thus far this season, but its still better than what A Feast For Crows gave us.

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    62. I confess that I did not expect to see Margaery and Tommen post-coitus. It’s weird to think that Natalie Dormer is twice Dean Chapman’sage.

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    63. The Bastard,

      I agree on this part. When Varys told Tyrion that Westeros needs a leader fiercer than Tommen but more gentle than Stannis, I knew the context of the line would revolve around Dany, but I immediately thought of Jon first.

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    64. Quiddity,

      That I don’t agree with. I found her chapters in AFFC to be right up there with Cersei’s. She just seems so much more insufferable in the show.

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    65. Sue the Fury,

      I won’t leak any information about tonight’s episode……but with respect to my critique of last week’s episode I do have a short statement regarding this week’s episode…….
      FREAKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!! I’ll be back tomorrow when I can say more about jaw dropping twists and turns and growing up Snow! (Jon)

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    66. Compare Brienne’s book arc with Brienne’s show arc. Basically it is “Chasing Sansa and meeting zombies” in the books, but the pace is quite yawn…

      Now, I am almost looking forward to the next part of this buddy movie.

      This deviation is not just well done. It was necessary (in my humble, undesired opinion)

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    67. If Brienne somehow “kills” Stannis, (you know,he wants to avenge renly,they are both going to Winterfell) I’ll be very disappoinnted,but I hope a badass fighting scene between those two,and hopefully,The Mannis wins

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    68. If Brienne somehow “kills” Stannis, (you know,she wants to avenge renly,they are both going to Winterfell) I’ll be very disappoinnted,but I hope a badass fighting scene between those two,and hopefully,The Mannis wins

      Stannis the mannis,

      She*

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    69. Pigeon,

      I agree. If one were to compare the exact wording of the show vs the book I think most of the time it wouldn’t be the same. But we don’t notice because the exact wording is not important.
      For those who disagree read and then watch for example Tyrion’s speech to Jon in episode one or the bathtub scene with Jaime and Brienne and see how much details that are changed.

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    70. Did anyone notice how jaqen reffered to himself as “me” instead of ” a man.” Maybe jaqen is the many faced god?

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