Game of Thrones resolves filming delay in Northern Ireland; plus, a new casting notice!

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Game of Thrones set in Corbet

Game of Thrones is reportedly on its way toward a resolution of the filming delay in Corbet, Northern Ireland, sources inform us.

Shooting was due to start yesterday but local objections to the set along the River Bann caused all filming at the location to be put off until further notice.

We’ve learned there are multiple issues involved in the complaint, from the large size of the structure to the amount of traffic being caused by the presence of Game of Thrones production. However, as of this morning, permission has been granted for work to resume while the concerns are investigated.

The new shooting start date is unconfirmed at this time, though rumors of various days are flying at the moment. We’ll keep you posted as more information comes in.


And in casting news:

Despite all the Dothraki filming going on at the moment, Game of Thrones is still seeking another actor for season 6…and possibly beyond.

The show is looking for an actor to play a warrior in his 30’s or 40’s. He should be mixed ethnicity or middle eastern background. They’re looking for someone with a powerful, warrior physique, an intimidating and muscular tall frame, and great charisma.

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The notice says the line he speaks will be in “a fictional language that will be learned phonetically,” narrowing the role down to someone speaking Dothraki or Valyrian, and given this description we can safely guess Dothraki.

He’s in a big scene with leading cast, but he only has the one line.

Filming on this scene is scheduled for the first two weeks of November, in Northern Ireland. It’s noted that there is a possibility of further work next year.

With that last note, does that mean Daenerys is holding onto this khalasar for a good long time?

Sue the Fury
Susan Miller, Editor in Chief of WatchersOnTheWall.com

105 Comments

  1. Tywin of the Hill:
    How many Dothraki does this season need?

    How many wildlings did Season 5 need? Karsi, Loboda and a few others.. Dany is all alone in Vaes Dothrak for quite some time, and once Daario (and Jorah) come to get her, they need to have some opposition as well. So there you have it, you have the Young Widow as probably the only female Dothraki with considerable lines and we probably have four male Dothraki, but they have to share the wealth. It’s pretty clear that there’s going to be a scene with multiple Khal’s.. So it would be weird if there weren’t more than three big hulking Warrior-casting calls.

    And lets just say that Jason left some pretty big shoes to fill..

  2. NCW last week tweeted at a personal trainer in Belfast (@rorygirvan) that he looked forward to seeing him “next week.” So NCW was expecting to be in Belfast this week.

  3. More Dothraki. It’s been a long time since S01-02 so I don’t understand people that are not looking forward to this. We all want to see Daeny in Westeros, but Dothraki are huge part of her storyline and always will be. Same with Jon and Wildlings. It would be really interesting to see them eventually in Westeros. They’re considered savages but when you get to know them. Some truly interesting and loving characters. Tormund, Wun Wun, Mance, Ygritte, Karsi/Val , Khal Drogo, Rakharro, Daeny’s handmaids Irri and Doreah, Khal Jhaqo and others. I’m really excited to see new Khal, Young Widow and other new characters.

  4. I’m not feeling Dany’s arc this season. To know that the Dothraki will be a big part of season 6 and not a small setback (as I thought it would be) is killing me. It feels like a huge step down to have her being a Khaleesi like in season 1, I thought we were past that.

  5. Tomigreyjoy: It feels like a huge step down to have her being a Khaleesi like in season 1, I thought we were past that.

    Huh. There is a difference between being a khaleesi, in the sense of the wife of a khal, and being the khal(eesi) of all khals.

    I’m personally quite excited about this development. Hoped her story would go further this season than it apparently will, but I always wanted to come back to the Dothraki. It’s been foreshadowed since the first few books that she would come back. I don’t get the surprise.

  6. Ser Oromis Locke:
    And lets just say that Jason left some pretty big shoes to fill…

    I doubt this guy (or the others, for that matter) is going to overshadow Jason Momoa, or even get near his level.

  7. Geralt of Rivia,

    The Wildings share a lot of traits with the people of Westeros and they have a lot of history with them, so of course it’s interesting. On the other hand, the Dothraki never cared for the Westerosi so it wouldn’t make sense if they migrate there for whatever reason.

  8. Master of Boobs:
    Why are they recasting Hodor?

    Haha

    While it is indeed most likely Dothraki, it’s interesting to consider alternatives

    Eg any chance at all this could be Unsullied?

  9. Tomigreyjoy:
    Geralt of Rivia,

    The Wildings share a lot of traits with the people of Westeros and they have a lot of history with them, so of course it’s interesting. On the other hand, the Dothraki never cared for the Westerosi so it wouldn’t make sense if they migrate there for whatever reason.

    It’s actually quite simple: Dothraki follow power. Dany+Drogon is pretty much the most powerful pair you can follow.. Hence they will follow her wherever she goes.

  10. It’s difficult to be excited with these repetitive casting calls. Come on, 27 dothraki speaking roles next year? More like 2 dothraki characters and 25 generic dothraki extras. I know they have to make casting calls to find extras with that specific features, but it’s starting to be boring, not exciting.

  11. Fred:
    Sueeeeeee could you confirm if either Edmure or the Blackfish are returning? :C

    Seriously. That’s the only thing I’m concerned about right now. Those characters should appear and should NOT be recast.

  12. Ghost’s Lunch,

    The notice says “powerful, warrior physique, an intimidating and muscular tall frame, and great charisma.”. The Unsullied have so far been shown to be slender, quiet and obedient, so it doesn’t seem likely.
    At first I had thought of a Yunkish general, but they’re usually not the warrior type.
    Unless it’s a slave soldier, like Mossador in Season 4.
    But I still think it’s a Dothraki.

  13. Matt,

    There is no reason to recast them.

    They recasted Daario and Bloodraven for better actors.

    Original Tommen and Myrcella were just a placeholders.

    And the actor who played The Mountain left the show for The Hobbit.

    Tobias Menzies wasn’t a placeholder, he is a good actor and wants to return to GoT.

  14. …the amount of traffic being caused by the presence of Game of Thrones production…

    Everyone desperately wants to get a glimpse of Clive Russell!

  15. I hope this delay causes not too many problems for the cast, I suppose some actors will also have other activities. Personally I find it stupid to complain about something temporary.

  16. Matt,

    As I said, Tobias Menzies wasn’t a placeholder, he is a good actor and wants to return to GoT.

    And Clive Russell said that Blackfish is still alive, so he is clearly in contact with D&D.

  17. BeautyBrinne,

    lol every Dothraki man is Jason Momoa. It is known. He’s also every Dothraki woman. There’s really only one Dothraki person and it’s Jason Momoa. Cloned times X.

  18. Hmmm.. It does sound like a Dothraki warrior or maybe some other warrior from Essos Dany encounters…..

    The first name that came to mind (and it came to mind twice) is Fares Fares. I’ve always liked him as an actor. Plus, he fits the basic description being 40-ish, 6-2 , fairly muscular and charismatic. He is Lebanese or Assyrian via Sweden I think… If the role is just the one scene and not carried over to next season the role may be too small for him though…

    I’m just glad the filming can pick up again!
    I’m very interested in the Riverrun scenes and still hope to find out some more details about the story taking place there!

  19. I was in construction and I cannot fathom how HBO got a permit to build that bridge over the River Bann, hell in the States it would take one or two years (likely), the EPA, Army Corps of Engineers, the State agency that controls structures over natural waterways, and so forth would have to approve the plans. Furthermore a study would be conducted on how the bridge and set, the later being so close to the water, would affect the marine life as well as the ecosystem in the vicinity and downstream.

  20. Ser Oromis Locke: Dothraki follow power. Dany+Drogon is pretty much the most powerful pair you can follow.. Hence they will follow her wherever she goes.

    but what about the spoils of war? Who gets those?

  21. What is up with all the calls for beautiful male eye candy? What about casting more beautiful, well endowed, actresses?

  22. All I know is Tobias is supposedly filming Outlander & Underworld 5 in Prague right now. And now my watch has ended.

  23. Rygritte: but what about the spoils of war? Who gets those?

    The Jason Momoa Legacy Trust, of course..

    Son of Hodor:
    What is up with all the calls for beautiful male eye candy? What about casting more beautiful, well endowed, actresses?

    Nope, we get wrinkled old bats, aka the Dosh Khaleen.. Outside of that single young widow.. And we all know that this show doesn’t do female candy anymore, it’s been labeled offensive. Showing man-ass is now the new sport. And if all that fails, they’ll hire a new Dutch actor/actress to flaunt the genitals somewhere.. I mean outside of their acting taents, Carice and Michiel are pretty much the figurative tits and ass of this show as it stands…

  24. Most of Essos sucks on the show just like it does in the books. Let’s move these storylines along, please.

  25. Son of Hodor,

    This must be true: people have been saying it since FDR, after all.
    tyjon,

    And yet filming gets done in the States all the time! The big difference is that most of the rules and regulations apply to permanent structures. A bridge built as a prop doesn’t need to meet those because it never gets used by autos, trucks, etc.

    And when production crews need bridges that can do these things, they use real bridges!

  26. Tomigreyjoy,
    I think she will lead the khalasar back to Mereen to kick some butt. Her dragons will be even larger, and now instead of riding a horse, she rides a frackin dragon. That proves strength to dothraki and as jorah said on the way to Astopor, they follow strength.
    Maybe drogon will eat this guy…
    Anyway, then she will have a huge army to conquer westeros with!

  27. Pigeon: Did you seriously just throw out the name of a jacked up WWE superstar for a role on GoT???

    Because that’d make my day, I love that guy. ?

    http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/images/featured/roman-reigns1.jpg

    He certainly has the look. His physical stature and Island heritage bear a resemblance to Jason Momoa.

    Unfortunately, his screen presence and acting chops bear more of a resemblance to that stableboy Arya killed back in season one.

  28. Tomigreyjoy,

    For you, perhaps. I can’t wait too see the Dothraki following Dany.

    Also I disagree, their culture is simple, they follow strenght, and there isn’t anything more powerfull then a dragon.

  29. Mihnea,

    I’m sorry but I think you mean a ” tamed ” dragon , not just a dragon .
    Because what the point of having untamed dragon ? , it’s like having a broken sword !!
    She didn’t train her dragons anyway and she’ll pay for this , because I don’t think GRRM miss this one detail -training dragons – mistakenly 🙂

    I don’t think Dany will ever conquer Westros ! , there’re only two books left and she don’t have time in her favor
    Besaid Westrosi people need a ruler from their own , not someone from a different continent.

  30. blood of winterfell,

    Well I don’t belive there is such a thing as a ”tamed” dragon. Dragons will always be unpredictible, impulsive,..etc.

    Also disagree, Dany will most certainly reach, and conquer westeros. Rule it, tough? Not sure here, there is still a war with the WW to fight, so many things could happen.

    But we have to remenber, in Martins plan, the one with the 5 year time skip, Dany was already rulling Westeros, and trying to unite it against the WW.
    So I fully belive Dany will get to Westeros and conquer it. But like her vision in Qarth showed. There might be more important things for her to do, then sit the IT.

    EDIT: Just to avoid confusion. I’m not talking about the ”original” plan, where Jon/Arya are in a relasionship.
    But the one we all expected after ASOS, until martin said that the 5 year time-skip wouldn’t work, so he decided to write the events in those 5 years, thus we got AFFC/ADWD, and all the madness of Meereen, Cersei destroying the realm in 6 months rather then 5 years..etc. he tried to avoid.

  31. Darquemode: mmm.. It does sound like a Dothraki warrior or maybe some other warrior from Essos Dany encounters…..

    The first name that came to mind (and it came to mind twice) is Fares Fares. I’ve always liked him as an actor. Plus, he fits the basic description being 40-ish, 6-2 , fairly muscular and charismatic. He is Lebanese or Assyrian via Sweden I think… If the role is just the one scene and not carried over to next season the role may be too small for him though…

    I’m just glad the filming can pick up again!
    I’m very interested in the Riverrun scenes and still hope to find out some more details about the story taking place there!

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    Fares Fares, yes, that would be awsome! He’s both lebanese and assyrian, moved to Sweden in 1987. He’s done alot of great movies in Sweden, not always acting himself though. He also got a brother – Josef Fares, but I can’t for my life see him as a Dothraki warrior…!

    We have some Scandinavian actors in GoT, danish (NCW, Karsi, Euron etc) and norweigian (Tormund) , but no Swedes i think….bring ’em in!

  32. Off-topic: Whoever recommended Vikings to me, thank you! Its soo good. I am all caught up and cant wait for season 4 (2016)…. ugh those waits are killer!

  33. Deesensfan:
    Off-topic: Whoever recommended Vikings to me, thank you! Its soo good. I am all caught up and cant wait for season 4 (2016)…. ugh those waits are killer!

    Love, love, love Vikings. At least the wait for next season is not quite as long anymore. I believe it is February here in the US.

  34. “They’re looking for someone with a powerful, warrior physique, an intimidating and muscular tall frame, and great charisma”…. Ive never seen words so accurately describe myself better in my life. Where do I sign up?

  35. Angry Sock,

    Yeah, one of the many rumored things, but there’s no source provided. And I don’t really trust sources that aren’t my own, or longtime proven ones.

  36. Deesensfan,

    +1… I pretty much marathoned the whole show on amazon prime last winter. I was hooked. Plus se4 starts next January and runs right up until GoT se6 starts. How great is that

  37. Deesensfan:
    Newbietothegame,

    Same!
    February?? Woohoo!!!!! I am in Canada so it’ll probably be the same.and I hear there’s more episodes than usual?!?!

    Yes, I read something about it. Not sure if those are rumors (I hope so) talking about Ragnar’s potential death (NOOOOO) and Bjorn being the leader. I hope those rumors are false. Ragnar is my favorite character, and of course half-mad Floki.

  38. God of tits and wine:
    Newbietothegame,

    Bruh, how in the hell would Ragnar get the axe? I’ll follow that question with what happened in the Sopranos after Tony punched out

    Well, the writer of the show said something like ‘the show is called Vikings, not the Ragnar show.’ I hope all these rumors are wrong. Travis is brilliant as Ragnar. Would just not be the same without him.

  39. Newbietothegame,

    oh no I truly hope that’s not true… but I mean.. its based on “true events” and the real Ragnar.. lol
    I never heard those rumours. He is my fave along with Lagertha……… OBVI lol

    God of tits and wine,

    LOL! I watched them over a span of a month this summer.
    January?? Till when GOT starts?!?!! That’s perfection. 🙂

  40. On topic:
    I cannot complain about casting more brickhouse warrior men. I would like to see an equal balance of “T & A”, Dothraki “A” being particularly appreciated.

  41. I’m personally quite excited about this development. Hoped her story would go further this season than it apparently will, but I always wanted to come back to the Dothraki. It’s been foreshadowed since the first few books that she would come back. I don’t get the surprise

    You are correct! “To go west, you must go east. To go forward, you must go back.”– Quaithe

  42. Lyanna_targaryen,

    Not only that (which is quite vague.) There’s an oft-forgotten passage during one of the visions at the House of the Undying that made it pretty explicit that Dany would physically return to Vaes Dothrak:

    Beneath the Mother of Mountains, a line of naked crones crept from a great lake and knelt shivering before her, their grey heads bowed.

    If there’re any doubts about who these crones are (Dosh khaleen means “council of crones”), a clue is the Mother of Mountains, which is the Dothraki’s sacred mountain besides which Vaes Dothrak was built. Everyone paying attention during the House of the Undying scene in the book should’ve known Dany was going to go back there someday and take charge of them —and we also knew it wouldn’t be an easy, happy reunion: “shivering”, “their heads bowed”.

  43. Luka Nieto,

    I had hoped that were the show to have her regain the support of the Dothraki, as she most likely will have to and is more or less prophesied to, they would streamline the story and have her do so on her march for Westeros.

    I dunno, have her confronted by or seek out the Dothraki with her dragon(s) at her side and the Unsullied behind her, win them over and then set sail for Westeros.

    Instead it looks like we might get perhaps an entire season of her messing around in Vaes Dothrak pretty much on her own (main cast-wise). It feels like they’ve done it just so that Tyrion can have his own separate strand again, and Jorah and Daario can have their own little strand too.

    And so the Essos storylines may end up feeling as detached from the main action in Westeros and drawn out as they were last season.

    At the end of season 6 there will be only two planned seasons remaining. If all she’s done by the end of season 6 is to get the Dothraki onside again, I’d worry about how rushed the final couple of seasons would be if she is, as is expected, ever to mobilize her forces, tame the other two dragons (or not), land in Westeros, fight the White Walkers and possibly capture the Iron Throne, all in the space of 20 episodes.

  44. Ramsay’s 20th Good Man:

    I’d worry about how rushed the final couple of seasons would be if she is, as is expected, ever to mobilize her forces, tame the other two dragons (or not), land in Westeros, fight the White Walkers and possibly capture the Iron Throne, all in the space of 20 episodes.

    Maybe we will get a 9th season after all.

    Really looking forward to the Riverrun storyline. The CGI vista will be epic.

  45. Mihnea,

    The War of the X Monarchs almost has to be resolved before Ragnarok. And Ragnarok won’t be about fighting: it will be about figuring out what the hell happened centuries before, what went wrong since then, and how to get humanity out from under the heels of other powers but in a manner that is not solely to humanity’s benefit.

    blood of winterfell: I’m sorry but I think you mean a ” tamed ” dragon , not just a dragon .
    Because what the point of having untamed dragon ? , it’s like having a broken sword !!

    A tame dragon is like a tame cat. It does not do what you want, but it also does not try to hurt you (unless you deserve it: and you know you do!). Other people, however, get hisses, dander and claws.

  46. Flora Linden,

    Highly unlikely. A season 8 was always a possibility, as they always said that they wish to end the story in 70-75 houres. A 9th season tough I highly doubt.

    Of course I also don’t share the concerns that the story would be too ”rushed”. Especially when it was just recently confirmed that we will get 1 more season.

  47. Wimsey,

    I agree with you, that there will be allot of ”learning about the enemy” stuff, and so on.

    But I also suspect there will be some cool WW vs. Dragons And some nice battles. 🙂

  48. Mihnea,

    The show definitely does a good job at being lean, mean, sharp and ruthlessly efficient in telling the story. 🙂

    I think it will be 8 seasons too, but you never know.

  49. Mihnea: Of course I also don’t share the concerns that the story would be too ”rushed”.

    One thing that the Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter films (as well as Doctor Who and Game of Thrones) has taught me is that if the pacing is good, then the Fans will say “it’s too rushed!” On the other hand, if Fans are not complaining that it is rushed, then you can bet that there will be criticisms of the pace being tooooo sloooooow…….

    To that end, far and away the biggest concern is making something that Sid and Vic Critic think has a snappy pace and that Joe and Jane HBO Subscriber think has a good pace. While that happens, the show will continue to get major nominations (and win some of them) and it will continue to get (and keep) high ratings.

    As for things sounding rushed, well, look at it this way: when Daeny does reach Westeros, she probably will take it quite quickly. The Lannisters are in disarray, and this season probably will see them largely ruined by the Church, the Tyrells, Euron, the Dornish and, of course, their single greatest enemy: Cersei. Basically, there probably will be a near vacuum into which Daeny will appear, and she then will take away everything left that Cersei holds dear.

    Whether the Northerners are onboard will be pretty moot: the issue then will be getting Daeny north rather than getting the northerners south. (My bet is that this basic issue will arise earlier, but that the Southerners will laugh at the fairy tale of fictional White Walkers attacking Westeros.)

    Mihnea: But I also suspect there will be some cool WW vs. Dragons And some nice battles.

    Yes, I expect so: my bet is that there will be some major battle before the unraveling.

    The scenario that many seem to have spun where it’s going to be all about finding enough Valyrian swords and obsidian to kill all of the White Walkers probably is not in the offing, however.

  50. Wimsey,

    Very well said Wimsey! I agree with you here completly, more so on the pacing argument.

    And as someone who never read the HP books, I can clearly see what you mean here.
    I like the last couple of movies much more the first ones. And I really feel the first couple of movies where way too slow.

    I too think that getting all the Valyrian sword to the wall, is very unlikely, and quite a bad theory at that.
    I have no idea how they will stop the WW, but Valyrian sword won’t be the way in my opinion.
    A tool to be able to fight them? Sure. But it won’t be what stops the WW.

  51. mau,

    I really want to see the Blackfish return, both because I think that he’s too conspicuous a character to just write out of the show with no further mention and because I think Clive Russell is great.

    But I’d be worried that the producers might end up doing a Ser Barristan or a Mance Rayder on him. Use him as a wise, battle-hardened sage to offer a younger character (Jaime?) some vital insight into how to be a better leader/person and then, well, you know how things ended for those two.

  52. Mihnea,
    No culture is simple.

    What about their fear of the sea? The fact that, despite being nomads they are established since forever in the Dothraki Sea? The fact that they speak a completely different language? Completely different gods? Dosh Khaleen? The fact that they are slavers? It’s not that they just “follow the strong”.

  53. Tomigreyjoy,

    They will follow Dany. There is a 95% chance that the Dosh Khaleen will declare either Dany or Drogon as the stallion who mounts the world, so there the Dosh Khaleen question is resolved.
    They will also follow Dany, because TSWMTW is something like a ”mesiah” to them.

    Drogo was ready to cross the sea, and no one worried, so it clearly isn’t a culturale ”taboo” but just a fear of the unknown, wich is normal.
    What about language? They are there to conquer and follow Dany, not to talk with the locals.
    Also the goals are very much the same. There is a prophecy where the TSWMTW, will lead the Dothraki west, to the end of the world, wich Dany can easly say is Westeros. Also once you are declared the ”mesiah” of your people, goals don’t really matter, they will follow you no matter what.

    See this is the problem with most book readers, you get stuck in these tehnicalities, demanding answers to question that are not even raised.

  54. Mihnea,

    Because it’s been done before and it’d be a waste of a good character. In my opinion. I hope they do something different.

  55. Ramsay’s 20th Good Man,

    Not a waste in my opinion. Liked both Selmy’s and Mance’s death. Keeping them alive beyond their purpose is pointless in my opnion.

    And don’t try to give me the Selmy and Mance had stories. I’m much more excited for Tyrion rulling rather then Selmy, and also I consider Mance’s story in ADWD one of the greatest mistakes Martin ever did.

    So if the BF is to die, rather then keeping him for no reason beyond ”book-readers like him” then I’m all for it, even more if it gives Jaime even a better story, like they did with Tyrion.

  56. Wimsey: As for things sounding rushed, well, look at it this way: when Daeny does reach Westeros, she probably will take it quite quickly.

    Problem is, after spending 5 seasons/ books following to great detail all the intricacies of the war of the 5 kings and its consequences, then the greater war against the WW will felt rushed if done in one season.

    That’s a problem of most fantasy books, they spend sooo much time in preparation to the final battle that.. well that’s the problem, there should not be a battle, but a whole war against the evil dark lords.

    Mihnea: I consider Mance’s story in ADWD one of the greatest mistakes Martin ever did.

    100% with you, and I still don’t get why Mel didn’t burn him

  57. O_o: well that’s the problem, there should not be a battle, but a whole war against the evil dark lords.

    No, there really should not be any of that at all!

    Mihnea: I have no idea how they will stop the WW, but Valyrian sword won’t be the way in my opinion.
    A tool to be able to fight them? Sure. But it won’t be what stops the WW.

    Well, the key will be discovering what stopped them in the past. And there is no way that the Azor Ahai story is going to be the truth of it. The Wall itself represents something more. I am more and more liking the idea that some agreement was broken that the humans have no memory of ever having made, and that the (re?)surgence of the Red Church is somehow tied to this. I also am wondering if the non-human races were less than thrilled with the arrangement.

  58. Mihnea,

    What will she do when she takes over 100000 dothraki to Westeros?

    And what’s the problem with technicalities? They are what makes this fictional world so rich and alive. It’s not because I am a book reader.

  59. Tomigreyjoy,

    That is a question to be answered on the next couple of seasons, you want a answer for a question that has not been raised yet. Just like I said earlier.

    And no I see a very big in getting mistake in getting stuck in technicalities, it creates only dissapontment, and worse, angry people. They demand answers to question that are not even raised, or like you at least 2 seasons early.

    They create theories, that don’t really exist, and demand answers to questions that are not there. And proceed to say that these ”important” question where not answared.
    Like you said these technicalities are there just to give flavour to the world, not to create stories, move the plot or give moral questions to the protagonists. Like Tyrion working the drainages in CR.

    And the one I belive makes my point on this subject quite clear: the entire madness that was the ”Hip” theories, with Jayne Westerling, wich lead to hundreds of theories: BF took her with him, she has Robb’s child, she is the queen,..etc. Until it was confirmed it was just a mistake.

    So in short: I belive getting stuck in the technicalities and confusing just plain character backstory or simple world-building with story and plot is a huge mistake wich takes away from the story and leads only too angry people when it is proven that they where just wrong.
    And yes, you being a book-reader has a big part in you opinion on these subject. In my opinion, it is the sole reason.

  60. Mihnea,

    Well, you are wrong. It’s not just “glamour” to have a developed culture in a fictional story, it directly affects the way these characters behave and react so you have to keep a consistency in their actions based on their backstory and cultural background. In fact, I can’t believe you just said that plot and character backstory have nothing to do with each other.

    It has nothing to do with being a book reader, you just have an apparent aversion to book readers and clearly can’t even stand if there’s a minor complain or critic against the story. You just find a way to justify every mistake.

    I didn’t “demand” any answer. I said I wasn’t hyped for Dany’s story arc this season based on what we have seen, that’s all. Sorry you can’t stand that.

  61. Tomigreyjoy,

    Well I simply disagree here. I don’t think Tyrion being in charge of the drainage systen will have any impact on the plot or story. It’s a piece of information that is meant too add flavour to his character. Not a central piece of a story or a plot.
    And this goes to all the other details, I simply don’t see thenm as important, they never where, they never will.
    This is a example on how I view backstory, flavour, and rarely important in the present story.
    Tyrion example aplies to the Dothraki too, them being afraid of water is just a detail, a weak one at that when Drogo was ready to cross the sea and no one minded that.

    No characters don’t have to act ”consistent” this one of the biggest flaws of a writer/story in my opinion, characters are human beings, who can easly do ”illogicall’ things, or some action that is even contradictory to a earlier stance they had.
    They should be real beings, who do mistakes, or even stupid decision based on a ”emotional” view rather then a ”logical” one. They shouldn’t be stuck in a pre-determinaded path, or their action to be predictable, because some previous thing they said, or was said about them

    I have nothing against book-readers, I’m a book-reader myself and I can confidantly say I have read the books more times then you. The problem is the way some book-readers view the story, and think that the question they ask are ”important” when in truth they where never even asked.
    Being a book reader was a god argument, especially when this details are disscussed.
    Just like Wimsey said in another thread, there where details in the HP books that the fandom tought crucial, wich the movies got rid off with no problem.
    Same with this fandom, details that may apear important in the books may simply be bypassed, or not important at all too the overall story.

    I also don’t see ow you reached the conclusion I can’t take criticism. There is a lot of criticsm I consider valid wich I didn’t argued against. I just find yours quite silly and not important at all especially where the Dothraki are concerned, and I replied with arguments. You did the same, no insults, no namecalling, nothing just a disscussion, wich you tried to portay as me being the unrezonable one, when you, just like me stand firm on what you belive.

    But there is little point in disscussing this anymore, we clearly see stories in general in a differant way, not only this one. We will see who is right when the season starts. But of course even this is not certain, as this are only opinions, and tastes vary from person to person. What I find good you may find bad, and what you find good I may find equally bad.

    Like I said little point in talking, when we have 2 very differant views on what is important in a story.

  62. Mihnea,

    Fair enough.

    BTW, Tyrion being put in charge of the drainage was meant to be a despreciative act by his father, further accentuating the hatred they have for each other.

  63. I feel I need to defend my area in regards to this article. I live near the Corbet, it is a TINY village. It has a filling station, farms and houses. That’s it. We aren’t built for this kind of infrastructure. The film studio nearby is surrounded by houses and the traffic is constant when GoT is filming. And when I say traffic I mean buses, trucks, catering vans…. All squeezing down country lanes. It’s not fun meeting them late at night on the tight bends.

    Filming is going on, it has been for some time. Most of us love having them here and we protect the site because they bring jobs to the area. Please don’t condemn us for having a few problems, we can’t handle the traffic we have at the best of times let alone buses full of extras!! And just so you know, the complaints are most likely from one grumpy old lady who got her knickers in a twist because HBO wouldn’t compensate her.

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