Game of Thrones, Dinklage win at 2019 Emmy Awards, bringing total to 12!

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Presenting at the 2019 Emmys

The 2019 Emmy Awards were broadcast live tonight from the Microsoft Theater in Los Angeles., and the cast of Game of Thrones was out in force as usual! GoT racked up a record-breaking 32 nominations this year for the final season, and having picked up 10 wins already at the Creative Arts Emmy ceremony last Sunday, was looking to add more to that total. GoT competed in seven categories tonight, with even more nominations than that, thanks to multiple nods in several areas. Ultimately Game of Thrones came home with the biggest prize of all, Outstanding Drama Series, while star Peter Dinklage won an incredible fourth Emmy for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series for his role as Tyrion Lannister. With those awards, the final Emmy total for Game of Thrones season 8 stands at 12.

In addition to the wins, the nominated actors from the GoT cast presented the award for Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Limited Series or Movie to actress Patricia Arquette (The Act) with Dinklage reading the winning name.

A complete rundown of the categories the show was in tonight, with the winners highlighted in bold/italic:

Outstanding Drama Nominees:

Better Call Saul
Bodyguard
Game of Thrones
Killing Eve
Ozark
Pose
Succession
This is Us

Outstanding Actor in a Drama Series:

Jason Bateman, Ozark
Sterling K. Brown, This is Us
Kit Harington, Game of Thrones
Bob Odenkirk, Better Call Saul
Billy Porter, Pose
Milo Ventimiglia, This is Us

Outstanding Actress in a Drama Series:

Emilia Clarke, Game of Thrones
Jodie Comer, Killing Eve
Viola Davis, How to Get Away With Murder
Laura Linney, Ozark
Mandy Moore, This is Us
Sandra Oh, Killing Eve
Robin Wright, House of Cards

Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series:

Alfie Allen, Game of Thrones
Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, Game of Thrones
Peter Dinklage, Game of Thrones
Jonathan Banks, Better Call Saul
Giancarlo Esposito, Better Call Saul
Michael Kelly, House of Cards
Chris Sullivan, This Is Us

Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series:

Gwendoline Christie, Game of Thrones
Sophie Turner, Game of Thrones
Lena Headey, Game of Thrones
Fiona Shaw, Killing Eve
Maisie Williams, Game of Thrones
Julia Garner, Ozark

Outstanding Directing for a Drama Series: 

Game of Thrones, “The Last of the Starks,” directed by David Nutter
Game of Thrones, “The Long Night,” directed by Miguel Sapochnik
Game of Thrones, “The Iron Throne,” directed by David Benioff and D.B. Weiss
Killing Eve, “Desperate Times,” directed by Lisa Brühlmann
Ozark, “Reparations,” directed by Jason Bateman
Succession, “Celebration,” directed by Adam McKay
The Handmaid’s Tale, “Holly”, directed by Daina Reid

Outstanding Writing for a Drama Series: 

Better Call Saul, “Winner,” Written by Peter Gould and Thomas Schnauz
Bodyguard, “Episode 1”, written by Jed Mercurio
Game of Thrones, “The Iron Throne,” written by David Benioff and D.B. Weiss
Killing Eve, “Nice and Neat,” written by Emerald Fennell
Succession, “Nobody Is Ever Missing,” written by Jesse Armstrong
The Handmaid’s Tale, “Holly” Teleplay by Bruce Miller and Kira Snyder

The looks tonight, at the show and from the purple carpet:

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    1. Congrats to them all. Greatest cast and crew of all time. Thanks for a brilliant, magical and magnificent 8 seasons Mr Benioff and Mr. Weiss, I’ll always be grateful.

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    2. A bit disappointing that just Peter won for acting. I did really want Maisie to win – actually thought she had the best shot. Due to my personal research I don’t really buy the vote splitting excuse but I’m sure we’ll read plenty of that.

      So happy they won Best Drama again. Despite what loud people are still saying, the show was still on another level and deserving to retain the crown on the way out.

      Loved the group presentation. Teared up a bit even.

      ASNAWP forever!!!!

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    3. Congrats!

      As expected, GOT8 won Best Drama from the industry voters. Emmy is not primarily driven by quality – and this is GOT’s golden watch. It was their final year and a weak competitive year at that. And esp. after winning 10 of the technical awards, this was no surprise. I still would not have given them Best Drama Series myself but I can be happy for the cast and crew for many years of great work. Their final year was exquisitely bad but a warm goodbye is still OK with me.

      It is a surprise for me that Emmy voters did not give GOT8 writing and/or directing. Even the industry could not stomach that for GOT8.

      Acting – I always think that the cast do not get the recognition that they deserve for their work over the years. My favorite actor is Peter but I think it is weird that he has 4 awards and no-one else has been recognized. However, that is life.

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    4. The acting categories were always long shots. Best drama is not a surprise, as it was the final season and I think everyone expected that. However, I expected them to win directing and writing, even with all the complaining over the final season. They routinely have cleaned up in writing and directing these last few years and to lose both of those in the final chance to win is a clear snub. I can’t spin it any other way.

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    5. Great way to end a remarkable decade! Congratulations to D&D, all our wonderful actors and actresses, producers, cast and crew. A job well done for the best series ever. The haters will hate let them. You are the best!!! 👏🏻 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻♥️

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    6. Well, that’s incredibly disappointing. Fuck that. Maisie, Emilia and Alfie killed it in S8, and got screwed over. I love Peter, and glad at least someone from the cast won, but goddamn.

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    7. Overall, I’m very happy. Game of Thrones wins 12 Emmys for its final season, tying its own record, and bringing its total for the entire run of the series to 59. Also, with this victory, #GameOfThrones joins Hill Street Blues, L.A. Law, The West Wing, and Mad Men as the only four-time winners of Outstanding Drama Series in Emmys history. A well-deserved honor!

      Yes, I would have LOVED to see another actor win alongside Peter Dinklage (especially one of the actresses). But I had a feeling that the 4 Game of Thrones supporting actresses would split votes in that category. I’m happy for Julia, who I loved on The Americans (haven’t seen Ozark), but this is a bittersweet pill to swallow. Love to Lena, Maisie, Sophie, and Gwen! Thank you for everything!

      Speaking of Supporting Actor, I would have loved to see Nikolaj or Alfie win … but Season 8 was absolutely one of Peter Dinklage’s very best seasons on Game of Thrones, so I wholeheartedly embrace Peter’s victory.

      Sorry to see Kit and Emilia come up short, especially given Kit’s recent personal struggles and Emilia delivering her best-ever work this season. But I’ll never forget the performances that they poured their hearts and souls into.

      I’d have loved to see the show win writing as well. Thank you David and Dan – they were brilliant, and I’m forever grateful for everything they did in writing and creating this magnificent show.

      In the end, Game of Thrones won the awards I thought it would – except Directing. I’m sure that vote-spilting came into play there as well, but that was absurd. Miguel was robbed. What he achieved with The Long Night was absolutely unparalleled.

      I tend to get very invested in these award shows, so I’ll revel in these victories, but ultimately, the memories are what matter. Whether they have a trophy to show for it or not, everyone involved in the production of the final season should be tremendously proud of their achievement!

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    8. NCW should of won over Peter and Gwen for best supporting actress. Personally I feel they will be back in ten to fifteen years depending on the actors and more story with books comes out. Old shows are coming back and I would not be surprised to see something long down the road. The show did not end the way I wanted “wanted baby targ” but oh well life goes on. Great run

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    9. Funny how the acting awards can work. For all its Emmy success, Mad Men only ever got one acting Emmy — Jon Hamm, and not until the final season.

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    10. On the one hand GoT was a huge blockbuster that competed for popularity with MCU, Star Wars and so on. But on the other hand they competed with acclaimed but not that popular drama series like Succession, Killing Eve, BCS and so on.

      It was incredibly hard to find balance between mass popularity and quality and prestige, but I think they found it.

      The fact that the show could be competitive even with these large blockbusters that will never even be nominated from Academy and yet was able to leave shows like Man Man, The Crown, THT and the rest behind in incredible achievement.

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    11. The writing has been shaky for some time. It was clear in GOT7 (esp Beyond the Wall) but I think many hoped that this was because they needed to get everyone in place for a great final season. (Well, I hoped so!)

      The writing in GOT8 was hilariously/distressingly bad. It was so bad it erased much of the character work and storyline over the previously years. GOT8’s writing was festival of nonsense – it will be taught in drama school as a failed end to a series. Technically accomplished, solid acting but with a script that defied sense.

      I think Emmy’s industry voters could not summon the intestinal fortitude to vote for that kind of story writing, even as we say goodbye to a remarkable series. GOT8’s script was comically/sadly bad.

      The series as a whole however, particularly GOT1-GOT4, was worthwhile.

      On the upside, D&D were finally able to appear in public.

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    12. I had hoped for more wins in the acting category. The acting has always been superb, I couldn’t even say who was my favourite because I loved almost all of them.

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    13. I would take any of GOT’s seasons, including the Eigth, over any of the other nominated shows in any cathegory. To me the series ended as it should have and about as well as it could have. The rest is just irrelevant background noise.

      Congratulations to that cast and crew on their deserved wins and their herculean efforts to bring this mammoth show to life and to a successful conclusion. From this here fan, I wish you all the best of luck in all your future endeavours!

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    14. I checked the Emmy’s on YouTube. It was strange the hear the GOT intro again at a time I used to watch GOT. For me in Belgium that was alway early in the morning in my bed. Too tired to get up and didn’t want to wake up the cats who sleep in the living room. Memories…

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    15. I really thought the actors should have won more awards, teared up when they didn’t win. they’re winners in my heart.
      The directing was also top notch- it’s not their fault the writing sucked.

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    16. Congrats to all of them for the wins and even nominations! I know some may use the losing categories to continue their “this season was awful” argument but in all honesty it really is a huge deal to get even nominated alone (source: been nominated and also won a few Emmys myself 😉 have also lost in a few categories. Everyone in my industry is the same and grateful for the recognition regardless.) Can’t wait to see what new bars will be raised with the successor shows.

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    17. Very surprised Sapochnik didn’t win for directing. No matter what anyone thought about the plot the directing on that episode was incredible.

      Ill rewatch season 8 again but it wasn’t bad, especially if you take it as a stand alone season. It just didn’t go the way people wanted it to.

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    18. Not a fan of Peter winning again at all. All in all, I’m left feeling rather disbelieving and almost disappointed over some of the wins the show got. Shrugs.

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    19. The biggest (and IMO still best overal) show ever not winning for writing/directing in its final year, despite fairly “small” opposition? Well, that says a lot… PD always deserved his Emmy’s, and I will forever be sad that some of the other actors never won, but Best Drama this year defintily has a “golden watch” feel to it. Still happy that it did win, as a nod to the (previous) years of high drama entertainment, the likes which we may never see again!

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    20. I’m glad the show won Best Drama for the actor’s sakes, they worked hard – some of them grueling hard – on the show for many years. Glad the writers won nothing. The episodes themselves were beautifully done so I’m glad they cleaned up technically. Not surprised at all the directors were snubbed for S8.

      I wish everyone involved future success and happiness, except for D&D. F those guys infinity.

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    21. Wow how did Miguel not win for the Long Night, the direction for a TV episode was fantastic and I would have thought that was close to a certainty. Really happy for Peter though especially!

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    22. Congrats to the GoT team for the wins!! Winning best drama is a great ending!! Still surprised they didn’t submit A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms for best director but alas. Also, I’m happy out of the other actors to lose to, Emilia lost to Jodie! She is amazing as Villanelle and I am still surprised and upset she wasn’t nominated last year alongside Sandra Oh. I was hoping for a Lena or Gwendoline win but the situation reminded me of the SATC-Weeds moment: All the women from Sex and the City were nominated and so they all expected a win from one among them but Mary-Lousie Parker won for Weeds instead. Anyways, the GoT ladies were Mary-Louise Parker’ed. Still great that they all got to stand on the stage once again for Best Drama!

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    23. Dark Sister,

      For me ‘A knight of the 7 kingdoms’ was the best episode of season 8 and one of the best ever. Excellent writing, good directing and haunting song at the end. I wonder why this episode got so few nominations.
      The Bells was visually very beautiful, for me more beautiful than The Long Night.

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    24. *ahem* Now that I’m less mad, I will say that seeing Iain Glen and Bryan Cogman was rather lovely. Also, Lena’s dress was faaaaaaaaabbbbbb.

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    25. Chilli:
      Dark Sister,

      For me ‘A knight of the 7 kingdoms’ was the best episode of season 8 and one of the best ever. Excellent writing, good directing and haunting song at the end. I wonder why this episode got so few nominations.
      The Bells was visually very beautiful, for me more beautiful than The Long Night.

      Because it was not submitted by D&D/HBO for any nominations except for music supervision.

      Gwen submitted it for acting. NCW also did a late switch and submitted this episode for his acting.

      This was a strong episode and perhaps the episode that ensured that Best Drama prize could be given to them with some decency as their “gold watch”.

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    26. Dark Sister,

      Knight of the Seven Kingdoms was the best episode of the season and absolutely should have been in there imo, because it could have won.
      I’m sad Gwen and Alfie didn’t win, happy Peter made history by winning most awards for supporting actor in a series. Tyrion was definitely the role of a lifetime and he was a rockstar throughout.
      Glad they won for best drama for the actors and crew sake, though I kind of wished producer Bernie C and the others had gotten a moment to talk.
      Seeing Gwen and NCW together again always makes me wish for future rom com or something. They have great chemistry in character and out. 🙂

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    27. Congrats to the GOT cast and crew, Best Drama one last time.

      Personal highlight was probably Gwen turning up like a Lannister bride to retcon the ending lol, that was cute, her dress had lions on the shoulders and everything. Instyle wrote, ‘you might have noticed Gwendoline Christie and NCW pay a sneaky tribute to their characters’ – that’s sneaky is it?

      I’m also super happy about Succession winning the writing award, I’ve been a fan of Jesse Armstrong for years, and that’s the one I predicted. I love that show and it will hopefully be nominated in a lot more categories next year.

      Disappointment has to be all of the actresses losing in their categories, I thought Lena would win for sure, but they must have cancelled each other out, what a deflating moment.

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    28. Jon Snowed:
      Wow how did Miguel not win for the Long Night, the direction for a TV episode was fantastic and I would have thought that was close to a certainty.

      Exactly my same thought, it’s really a shame he didn’t get the award (55 nights of shooting it’s definitely a remarkable thing for a tv series).
      And of course, I was hoping for Maisie to win 🙁

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    29. Jenny:
      Congrats to the GOT cast and crew, Best Drama one last time.

      Personal highlight was probably Gwen turning up like a Lannister bride to retcon the ending lol, that was cute, her dress had lions on the shoulders and everything.Instyle wrote, ‘you might have noticed Gwendoline Christie and NCW pay a subtle tribute to their characters’ – that’s subtle is it?

      I’m also super happy about Succession winning writing, that’s the one I predicted, I love that show and it will hopefully be nominated in a lot more categories next year.

      Disappointment has to be all of the actresses losing in their categories, I thought Lena would win for sure, but they must have cancelled each other out.

      Oh, so that was what those “drapey Moses” clothes were about. She was wearing the red Lannister cloak and he was the golden lion….

      King Bran was not included in the actors on stage for the presentation…considering he had the best story???

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    30. Mango,

      The lion pins on her shoulders had blue stones in their mouths. It’s all Gucci and you can see the pins on their website. The most unsubtle dress ever I loved it. I also love the fact that she’s so tall and she still wears heels and doesn’t try to make herself look smaller in any way.

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    31. Dark Sister,
      [EDIT] I meant *Desperate Housewives and Weeds, not SATC …. although I guess that’s a subconscious slip because those two shows tend to blend together for me.

      RG,

      Seeing Gwen and NCW together again always makes me wish for future rom com or something. They have great chemistry in character and out.

      For surrre! I always enjoyed watching interviews they did together! They joked, teased and bickered…like an old married couple.

      Mango,

      King Bran was not included in the actors on stage for the presentation…considering he had the best story???
      Wasn’t it only the nominated actors on stage at that point? I think Isaac was also sitting next to John Bradley, Liam Cunningham and Conleth Hill as well.

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    32. Pigeon,

      This!
      I do love Peter, but even if I have never considered Alfie as one of my favourites, I wanted him to win because personal affinity is one thing, and skill recognition is something else.

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    33. Congratulations to D&D and all of the cast and crew for the Best Drama win. Very well earned! I’m a little disappointed Peter Dinklage was the only actor to win in the show’s entire run, but the cast has nothing to be ashamed of. They are phenomenal!

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    34. trarecar:
      I wish everyone involved future success and happiness, except for D&D. F those guys infinity.

      You do realize that without D&D we would never have gotten this show in the first place? Show some respect.

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    35. I feel I should clarify some things: I consider Peter a solid professional, but I haven’t been impressed by his skill after season 4. On the other hand, Alfie was magnificent, but he got no Emmy, as compared with Peter’s four.
      As others have mentioned above, Maisie and Lena, Nikolaj and Gwendoline would have deserved recognition for their acting.
      But let’s say like Carice did: at least they all looked lovely, Maisie’s dress is my favourite. I’m glad that Maisie and Emilia appeared as brunettes again, it’s more suitable for them imo.

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    36. Jenny,

      Thanks for pointing out the significance of Gwen’s dress! I have seen only the pictures which accompany this text and I couldn’t notice the details. It’s really sweet that she wore a gown fit for a Lannister bride… Sigh.

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    37. Mango,

      If Emmy voters truly felt that way, they wouldn’t have nominated “The Iron Throne” for writing in the first place. Season 8’s writing didn’t undo any of the character work, just the opposite. It would have been so easy for D&D to pamper to fans like yourself and give you the fairytale ending you wanted, but they stayed true to the characters and the spirit of the story until the end. The season was much better for it.

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    38. Dark Sister:
      Dark Sister,
      [EDIT] I meant *Desperate Housewives and Weeds, not SATC …. although I guess that’s a subconscious slip because those two shows tend to blend together for me.

      RG,

      Seeing Gwen and NCW together again always makes me wish for future rom com or something. They have great chemistry in character and out.

      For surrre! I always enjoyed watching interviews they did together! They joked, teased and bickered…like an old married couple.

      Mango,

      King Bran was not included in the actors on stage for the presentation…considering he had the best story???
      Wasn’t it only the nominated actors on stage at that point? I think Isaac was also sitting next to John Bradley, Liam Cunningham and Conleth Hill as well.

      Thanks! I did not see the thread connected all the persons on stage. It did make sense they were nominees only! Pity Isaac as Bran did not get enough of a role to have been even considered for a nomination.

      They were a great bunch! Very good to see them together again.

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    39. Dark Sister,

      Thanks! I did not see the thread connected all the persons on stage. It did make sense they were nominees only! Pity Isaac as Bran did not get enough of a role to have been even considered for a nomination.
      They were a great bunch! Very good to see them together again.

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    40. Infuriated that Peter Dinklage was YET AGAIN the only one rewarded for acting. Throughout the series others have given performances just as good as his, and sometimes better.

      Maisie should have been a runaway winner in my book, with the caveat that I haven’t seen Ozark, so …..

      Delighted that Jodie Comer won Best Actress. She has been mesmerisingly good as Villanelle and it’s good to see her recognised as she has been unfairly overlooked in the past.

      Also very pleased that Chernobyl did so well. But like GoT, it lost out on the acting awards. I can’t really comment on the opposition as I only saw ‘A Very English Scandal’ but both Hugh Grant and Ben Whishaw (who did win) were excellent in that.

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    41. Congratulations. I think it’s a shame that GoT didn’t win for directing and I am disappointed that Maisie had not won a Emmy as well. They also could have won for writing if they had chosen “A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms”. Nevertheless, 12 emmys are a really strong number

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    42. So I guess I need to watch Ozark now to see what’s what. I’ve never seen it. I was disappointed about Maisie. It’s possible with so many characters in GOT, it’s hard for everyone to get noticed. I also really wanted Alfie to get recognized. He had a tremendous season 8. So many others also had a great season acting wise including NCW. I think this was Emilia’s best season too. But the one that surprised me the most was directing. I have to believe that the scale of the job that Sapochnik had to do with the night shoots for “The Long Night” couldn’t compare to what the director needed to do on Ozark. “The Long Night” was really unprecedented in TV (and perhaps film), and I was hoping he would get recognized with the win. The way he changed POV’s, styles, and mood throughout the movie length episode was outstanding. I actually think “The Bells” may have been even better (artistically) for Sapo.

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    43. Congratulations D&D, cast and crew for the winning Best drama this year. You all deserve it and I hope you all got a fun wild night to celebrate it. I wish you all good fortunes in the projects to come.

      Congrats to Peter Dinklage for his win. He deserves it. One of the best actors out there. Did I wish that NCW or Alfie would have won this year. Yes, but not because Peter did not put an amazing season on screen with acting, but I wish that NCW and Alfie got praise for their amazing work for the whole show. But still nominations is already a praise.

      About that, Carice is still over the moon about her Emmy nominations. Being in the top 6 is already a big praise. I love how happy she is and posting posts on FB about GoT. (Which is unfortunately overshadowed again when she mentioned they won best drama on FB by people only talking about how bad D&D were. Insufferable people who only want to force their opinion when Carice just wanted to share a happy moment in her life)

      About the misses: I really wished Maissie, Gwen or Sophie would have won. And Kit and Emilia. But be happy for the nominations, it’s already prove you gave one of the best performance this year. But probably vote split didn’t help.
      As for the long night, I really don’t see how this could not have won best directing. Is it maybe because the fantasy element in it? with the wights? That they didn’t get it. I really though the 55 nights would win them over. Or another vote split? Or is it maybe that they better could have put the bells forward? I think that episode was the best directed episode of season 8.
      As for D&D, shame you didn’t win, but don’t feel to bad about it, you were in the top 6 this year, which say a lot already. I’m very happy with the show you gave me over the past 9 years, it gave me something to dive in when I needed some place on my own. I never thought that after LOST I could get into a show more than that. But you 2 did it. I probably will never have a show that I care that much about than GoT. You put something amazing on screen, that I could talk about a lot (only people around me are probably happy that it’s over, now I’m quiet about it, well not really but they can hope that I will).

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    44. Mango,

      ”King Bran was not included in the actors on stage for the presentation…considering he had the best story???

      ——-
      He was exactly where he was supposed to be.

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    45. It’s a shame that in an article that we are celebrating the wins of the show we like (why else be here on watchersonthewall if not because we are massive GoT-fans), it needs to be overshadowed again with the “D&D are bad”-vibe. Can’t we just be happy all for a moment and share this moment together as one of the best GoT fans on this world. Singing “The bear and the maiden fair” together. “Jenny’s oldstone”, “Rains of Castamere”. And let the joy take over. Take a Dornish Red with it and enjoy it.

      Ten Bears:
      Mango,

      ”King Bran was not included in the actors on stage for the presentation…considering he had the best story???

      ——-
      He was exactly where he was supposed to be.

      And the winner of best lead actor is: Isaac Hempstead Wright, it seems we have a winner that wasn’t even nominated.
      Isaac: Why do you think I came all this way.

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    46. Tron79:
      But the one that surprised me the most was directing.I have to believe that the scale of the job that Sapochnik had to do with the night shoots for “The Long Night” couldn’t compare to what the director needed to do on Ozark.“The Long Night” was really unprecedented in TV (and perhaps film), and I was hoping he would get recognized with the win.The way he changed POV’s, styles, and mood throughout the movie length episode was outstanding. I actually think “The Bells” may have been even better (artistically) for Sapo.

      Completely agree with you. The fact that some people are firmly convinced that ep 3 was terrible because “it’s too dark and I can’t get what’s going on” is just ridiculous, they did night shoots with the precise intent of making the episode feel like a real night battle and give the audience that sensation.

      And yes, The Bells was just great and should have won the set design award.

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    47. orange,

      It was the ‘lack’ of writing I think that did them in for Season 8. For years we watched Jon deal with being a bastard and then when he finally finds out he wasn’t – where was the dialogue of him having to deal with that? How about when they didn’t show how Sansa and Arya felt about it, their reaction to the revelation? Their father risked his marriage, his reputation and potentially his life had anyone found out about it and no comment from the kids about that? There was also no discussion between Dany and Jon about them being related – other than ‘you have a claim to the Iron Throne’. We were left to assume the reason he ended the physical relationship was due to the incest – yet the Starks also have some history of incest in their background so there was nothing tangible to backup that assumption. Season 8 seemed like a checklist of items to get through with no depth…that’s what for me personally was lacking. Though I’m grateful we got an ending, I can’t help but feel a bit letdown at the execution. Anyway it is what it is and I’m glad the cast was recognized with one final big win – they deserve it for the years of enjoyment they gave us.

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    48. Some salty feelings in the comments today. I think I’m glad that I watched Ken Burns instead of the Emmys. Btw, who won for best political speech?

      I’m truly proud of what the cast and crew of GoT accomplished and I could personally care less about the awards. We don’t need validation from random people in suits in order to fully appreciate what they’ve done.

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    49. mau,

      And they didn’t win in writing and directing this year. Deservedly so. That would have been the biggest crime of the night had D&D actually won any individual awards.

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    50. Over the moon to see the cast there enjoying themselves and being recognized for their tremendous work! I echo the rest of peeps who missed the writing on A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms.

      Mango,

      I’m surprised anyone would think this was a “gold watch” win. There aren’t that many times a show had that many noms for acting, directing in a single season. Especially directing. In fact none comes to mind right now besides GoT but I’m sure there are. That just shows that while individually the season wasn’t a single “the very best” in a single category it had the strongest chance to be the winner for the big award.

      For me personally these best drama/comedy awards are a LOT like Heptathlon or Triathlon winners. While in sports that may not be the most exciting ones, in entertainment is the opposite. And frankly, the for best show award really SHOULD go for consistent quality at most levels if not all for the whole season if not the entire run. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      Besides, a single ep directing may be indicative of that specific human’s work but three noms shows a consistent quality in directing in that season. Never mind the fact 9 actors got noms already and they submitted various eps

      That being said, I have some doubts about what the industry voters consider quality and I definitely didn’t see it like them but that’s besides the point. Over 24,000 peeps in showbiz voted for GoT so there’s that.

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    51. Dee Stark:
      Those comments like oh GOT didn’t have much competition and only one because its their last season really piss me off.

      “Just start the damn joust before I piss myself.”
      “Stop this madness in the name of your king!”

      The two things I though of when reading your comment. And I agree with you. But personally I’m not pissed, but my reaction is a bit like Varys in 1×05 when Littlefinger states: When you find yourself in bed with an ugly woman, best close your eyes, get it over with.

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    52. Mr Derp,

      Perfectly stated mr Derp,

      Question about your name, where does it come from? Because I know there are memes that are called Derp and derpette or something. Is it from there?

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    53. kevin1989:
      Mr Derp,

      Perfectly stated mr Derp,

      Question about your name, where does it come from? Because I know there are memes that are called Derp and derpette or something. Is it from there?

      Nope, it’s from South Park.

      New season starts this Wednesday btw 🙂

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    54. Mr Derp,

      I agree, we don’t need validation but perhaps it’s nice to remember that the actors, writers, directors etc, they may want it for whatever reason. It’s people that work in the same field recognizing your work, it makes sense. It was important enough for Alfie, Gwen and Carice to submit their work on their own when it’s usually done by the show and network. Anyway, it’s why I watch and obviously root for my faves.

      Ugh, I feel terrible posting one comment one after another instead of consolidating them but I get interrupted so often reading the comments section. I never like Monday mornings.

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    55. TormundsWoman,

      It’s all good. I get it. We want our favorites to win. There’s nothing wrong with that at all 🙂

      It’s just that the voting is all subjective, so there’s no way to really have a definitive answer for which show/actor was better or worse. It’s all a matter of opinion, so there’s only so much emotional investment that I’m willing to devote.

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    56. I was expecting there to be some articles out there about how the GoT montage last night was just one giant spoiler. Yep, there are. The season isn’t even available on dvd/blu-ray yet so people that wait for that saw shots of some of the biggest moments of the season if they watched that montage. I don’t think friends of mine that are waiting usually watch the Emmys so they’re probably ‘safe.’ Even though it ended in May I really was surprised that they showed what they did.

      * but, to be honest, most people that are planning to watch have probably been spoiled some before now anyway. Unless one has stayed in a wifi-less cave for four months it has had to be impossible.

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    57. Clob,

      Honest question. What is the time limit for spoilers?

      GoT, one of the most, if not THE most, popular shows on planet Earth ended 4 months ago. It’s cool if some people haven’t seen it yet and don’t want to be spoiled, but why watch the Emmys then? Shouldn’t it be sort of assumed that something regarding season 8 would be mentioned or shown?

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    58. Thrilled that GOT won best drama, along with all of the tech awards last week. Surprised Peter won; this really wasn’t his season, and thought Kit should have won. Also wanted Alfie to win supporting. Well – we have our own awards going on here, maybe WOTW folk can rectify that a bit

      Thanks for explaining Gwen and Niks outfits to me; Love it! Not sure about Carices tho. Loved Aryas, and worried that Emily might make a sudden move…..

      Love the Bran lines up thread, hilarious! I agree, he didn’t have as many opportunities to show acting chops but I thought the Hold the Door episode was tremendous and he should have won for that one! But then he was out a season, which didn’t help either

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    59. I’m glad GoT won best drama (it far-and-away deserved it), but I’m very disappointed that Lena Headey walks away from this without an Emmy for her amazing work. I think this will go down as a great oversight in Emmy history. There are few characters on TV as memorable and complex as Cersei.

      That being said, I have to admit I was rooting for Maisie to win the supporting actress category. But alas.. 🙁

      It was also quite a poignant night seeing all the cast together one last time. There will of course be reunion specials years from now, but we are not likely to see all these wonderful actors/actresses together again for quite some time. It really hit home that this wonderful and unique show is truly over.

      We shall never see its like again.

      Oh, and ASNAWP!

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    60. Mr Derp: What is the time limit for spoilers?

      *shrug* I don’t know. It’s not something I would complain about and would probably actually actively try to keep from being spoiled during the Emmys if I didn’t want to be. I just remember wondering to myself if there were people in the audience that haven’t seen the show yet (when they showed Arya killing the NK on two separate occasions (show opening montage and the GoT montage) and Daenerys with the knife stuck in her and Drogon flying away with her body.) Whether they should or should not have shown such major spoilers it just seemed like more than necessary considering the box sets aren’t out yet.

      ash:
      Clob,

      I didn’t see the montage, is there a link?

      I didn’t see one with a quick look. It was basically like a S8 trailer except it showed major elements of the story as opposed to none at all.

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    61. Clob,

      I can empathize. It can be tough avoiding spoilers even when you try.

      I remember when Stranger Things season 3 came out, it took me a week or so to watch it after it came out and even then it was hard to avoid stumbling across a spoiler on a news website or something like that when I was avoiding any articles on the show.

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    62. I consider that Emmy mainly for a body-of-work , here at the end, which was excellent.
      I know actors have work to do, but since this was the last hurrah , and they got a ton of people together, and they tried to do it at the last premiere , but was missing seeing ‘long timers’ who were in season 8
      Rory McCann
      Kristofer Hivju
      Joe Dempsie
      Hannah Murray
      Daniel Portman (tho there seemed someone on the back row who may have been him)
      Gemma Whelan
      Richard Dormer (think he was at the final premier)
      Ben Crompton (I think he was at the final premier)

      can’t say I saw Dave Hill who wrote an episode
      Nice to see Sapochnik and David Nutter

      Someone who looked like it may have been Jerome Flynn was over on the side but I could not tell.

      Was Ramin Djawadi on stage? At least he picked up another Emmy , he should have gotten a boatload over the years and didn’t.

      **My side note, was surprised and disappointed that Jared Harris did not get an Emmy for Chernobyl he was the best of that group.
      Glad Chernobyl picked up best limited series since that is the best TV drama I have seen in years.

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    63. Breaking up my silence here just to express that I’m very happy to see Game of Thrones winning “Outstanding Drama” award and congratulations to Peter Dinklage as well for his win. GoT is firmly among my top 3 shows at the moment and it will take a lot for any TV show to push it down in my case.

      Another news to share with you is that my girlfriend started watching GoT herself recently and is currently 5 episodes in. She’s been really loving it so far and she told me she’s been hooked from first episode onwards. I imagine we’ll be able to watch some episodes together the next time we meet (as we’re in long distance relationship).

      Well, time to disappear behind the scenes again I imagine.

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    64. Lord Parramandas,

      I’m watching GoT for the first time with my good friend. We are in the middle of S6. He loves it. Jon Snow and Tyrion are his favorite characters.

      It’s always great to introduce someone new to World of Ice and Fire.

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    65. mau,

      My girlfriend intentionally wanted to wait after the show was over and I actually get her because I also find it a lot more peaceful to watch something on my own these days, without the active fandom being all around me. We’re both very like-minded when it comes to various TV shows so I imagine she’ll keep loving it as she advances onto next seasons.

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    66. Iul,

      Eh, IMDb, 20 yrs ago maybe a fairly reliable database. Even after Bezos bought it for a bit it resembled something decent. After Amazon got really big cca 2004-05 it is all downhill if you ask me. There’s an underlying interest now with Amazon Studio competing with others but who am I to say anything about that.

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    67. Iul:
      Imdb shows the lowest rating for the best drama series of 2019 (out of all the best drama series in history).

      Nobody of any importance cares about that.

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    68. Congratulations to all including D & D for coming up with this show in the first place. It is the greatest on Television and has upped the ante for other dramatic shows. Succession is a good one and writing award well deserved. That said, congrats to Peter Dinklage, but all the characters were great. I personally thought Knight of the Seven Kingdoms was the best episode for writing and I do think Miguel deserved best directing for the Long Night which was brilliant. I wish Alfie and Maisie had won though for their work throughout, and darn it, Nicolaj too, it is so hard to choose. Besides that I love Kit.

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    69. kathy,

      I agree with you. GoT didn’t merit the writing award this time, as the writing was too scanty with so much omitted. I don’t entirely blame the showrunners for this though. They were not given the material they were promised and didn’t have much to work with. I suspect there may have been other difficulties as well.

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    70. I wish there was an award for Ensemble Cast, as actors in this kind of show often miss out. I remember it was the same for the Lord Of The Rings cast at the Oscars.

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    71. IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes are kind of hard to judge based on score alone anymore. There seems to be more motivation now to score things in an exaggerated manner so that the score/rating reflects what you want others to feel about something rather than anything else.

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    72. They should’ve hired the wee toastie lady to serve her sandwiches during the Emmys.

      Seriously though, the biggest snub of the evening was that GoT didn’t win best “wee toastie”. Unbelievable!

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    73. Definitely some snubs. Especially in the directing category. I remember seeing a photo of a sign that was posted on here after the Winterfell battle was done filming. It mentioned how long it took them to film, and how there will be a lack of appreciation for what was put into making that episode. Well, looks like they were kind of right!

      I do think it should’ve been Nik or Alfie this year. Emilia deserved to win. This was a tough season for Dany and she absolutely killed it. I think Lena deserved to win, even though she didn’t do much this season. But her performance in The Bells was amazing. If not Lena, definitely Gwen. I wanted Kit to win, but I am very happy for Billy Porter. As much as I love Peter and Tyrion, I hate how he is the only actor that has ever won for this show. They all went above and beyond with their performances from day one, and they all really brought their A-game this year. It wasn’t really fair to overlook the rest of them throughout the whole series.

      As far as writing goes, I think they should’ve submitted A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms instead. That episode probably had the strongest writing this season and I think they would’ve won if they did.

      Now, let’s see how things go with the Golden Globes in a few months!

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    74. Iul,

      Iul: Imdb shows the lowest rating for the best drama series of 2019 (out of all the best drama series in history).

      That is totally ridiculous! Both Imdb and rotten tomatoes really showed that their whole system of rating is total BS! Although RT even with the executed witch hunt was still at 52% approval rating.

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    75. Enharmony1625,

      ”… I’m glad GoT won best drama (it far-and-away deserved it), but I’m very disappointed that Lena Headey walks away from this without an Emmy for her amazing work. I think this will go down as a great oversight in Emmy history. There are few characters on TV as memorable and complex as Cersei.

      That being said, I have to admit I was rooting for Maisie to win the supporting actress category. But alas.. 🙁
      ***
      Oh, and ASNAWP!”

      _______
      • For S8, Maisie Williams sure deserved the Emmy, and I have no doubt that Lena Headey and Gwendoline Christie siphoned off enough votes to enable Julia Garner to squeak by. (Lena deserved the Emmy for any of the prior seven seasons. S8… not so much. She had negligible screen time, and even in her submitted episode, “The Bells,” MW outshone her.)
      • As for directing, Miguel S. could’ve won it Despite the 55 (?) day’s of filming, I suspect the dizzying jump cuts from character to character throughout the episode was distracting for many voters. (Personally, I wish there had been an uninterrupted ten minute sequence of Arya slicing up wights with her customized spear, instead of four or five seconds.) Oh well. I guess with such a large ensemble of characters all in one place there was no way to focus on one or two of them.)

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    76. Tron79,

      …”The Long Night” was really unprecedented in TV (and perhaps film), and I was hoping he would get recognized with the win. The way he changed POV’s, styles, and mood throughout the movie length episode was outstanding. I actually think “The Bells” may have been even better (artistically) for Sapo.”

      ______
      As I alluded to earlier, the shifting POV’s, styles and moods may have seemed disjointed to some viewers/voters.
      And yes, artistically, I thought “The Bells” was the better Sapochnik episode. Of course, I confess that I was engrossed by the scene of the camera following Arya running the gauntlet of Dany’s Inferno.

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    77. Kevin1989:
      Lord Parramandas,

      It’s amazing too see you again. Missed your positive vibe here.

      Lord Parramandas,

      Oh and I’m currently with lost with par Avion.

      Oh nice! “Par Avion” is one of my less favorite episodes though. I have my next LOST journey planned to begin this November (when it will be 3 years since beginning of my previous rewatch). On other hand, our LOST community on FB had immense success in terms of growth recently. In span of less than 4 past months, we grew for 3000 members and since yesterday, we’re counting over 17000 members now.

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    78. Tron79:
      “But the one that surprised me the most was directing.I have to believe that the scale of the job that Sapochnik had to do with the night shoots for “The Long Night” couldn’t compare to what the director needed to do on Ozark.“

      That’s EXACTLY what I said last night. I am sure Jason Bateman is a competent director but the sheer size of cast and crew Sapochnik had to handle over such a long shoot is unprecedented for TV. I bitterly regret he was not recognized for it.
      As for writing, I haven’t yet seen a plausible alternative ending to S8 that wouldn’t have been ripped apart by a sizeable sector of the fandom. There was no way those multiple storylines could have been resolved to please EVERYBODY. If you have a better idea, bring it on.

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    79. Roheryn: As for writing, I haven’t yet seen a plausible alternative ending to S8 that wouldn’t have been ripped apart by a sizeable sector of the fandom. There was no way those multiple storylines could have been resolved to please EVERYBODY. If you have a better idea, bring it on.

      That’s not it though. It suffered from all the corners that were cut, the abrupt jumps, the missing scenes. My criticism of the writing is that there wasn’t enough of it.

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    80. Lord Parramandas: Oh nice! “Par Avion” is one of my less favorite episodes though. I have my next LOST journey planned to begin this November (when it will be 3 years since beginning of my previous rewatch). On other hand, our LOST community on FB had immense success in terms of growth recently. In span of less than 4 past months, we grew for 3000 members and since yesterday, we’re counting over 17000 members now.

      Sounds nice. For me I found it one of the best strangely. I liked the shock about the pillars around the barracks. Was a turn point somehow. Again the talk about Jacob. the flashback was ok. But I found the endscene with Claire to her mother heartshattering. Such a weight on Claire’s shoulders. But for me Lost doesn’t really have a bad episode. Some I like less then others like “Stranger in a strange land”, but not a single one I found bad. Amazing show.

      And I like season 3, Ben, Juliet, Charlie, Desmond are all in that season heavily. And many more I like. Unfortunately it also has my 2 least favorite characters in it. Nikki and Paulo.

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    81. In the end, I was satisfied with the results. Glad that D & D didn’t win for writing, but happy for HBO that the show won the big prize. Obviously wish more of the actors could’ve win, but there was a lot of stiff competition and there wasn’t one case where I felt that someone less deserving won over the GoT cast. I also thought GoT should’ve won for directing, regardless of the writing of the episodes. Ozark has good cinematography and is a well directed show, but so does GoT but on a much larger scale.

      Other than that, I thought the Emmys mostly got it right. Fleabag is great and deserved to clean up. Same with Chernobyl. Though Ozark has been up and down for me, I’m glad Julia Garner won for her role as Ruth.

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    82. kevin1989,

      In my case, there are about 15 LOST episodes I’m really not fond of. But still, when I rated all the episodes on scale from 1-10, I didn’t rate any below 6. “Par Avion” is my no.95 out of 114 episodes so it’s already in the “decent to watch” area on my ranklist.

      This is what I wrote for it during my 2016/2017 rewatch.

      MEMORY LANE 59 – “Par Avion”: I meant to write this yesterday but something came in between so I had to delay it for today. So with this episode, I officially crossed into second half of season 3 and also the second half of my LOST watch (which consists of 116 episodes due to split finales of S3 and S4). So where should I begin? Maybe by saying that this is the last Claire-centric episode… If I begin with the flashbacks, I can say that they were my favorite part of this episode and also in my opinion the strongest Claire scenes overall. We got to know that several years prior to crashing, Claire and her mother Carole were involved in a serious car accident which left Carole in a coma. In those days, Claire also met her father for the first time, who was revealed to be Christian Shephard. That also explained the scene in “Two for the Road”, when he was searching for his daughter in Australia. Christian was paying for medical treatment but on another hand, he also wanted to convince Claire to turn off the machines and let go of her mother. “Do not keep your mother alive for the wrong reasons. There’s hope and there’s guilt and believe me, I know the difference.” Their ways parted after that. In the final flashback scene, in the days before Claire boarded Oceanic 815, we got to see that Carole was still in coma and that Claire didn’t give up on her and there followed a pretty powerful scene when Claire apologized to her mother for the argument they had in the car, proclaiming herself responsible for the car crash. As far as the flashbacks are concerned, I was pretty satisfied with the story. But I can’t say the same for Claire’s on island storyline… The whole catching-a-bird-and-writing-a-message thing seemed quite silly. It would make more sense to me if it happened in S1 but I think the show was beyond the point. Not to mention that it provided no payback at all. I couldn’t shake the feeling that the producers couldn’t find a way to include Claire in the main storyline, so they created this pointless subplot for her just to keep her on-screen. And there was also the supposed tension with Desmond’s scenes but to the audience (or me at least), it was pretty obvious he has again foreseen another Charlie’s death. I don’t know… it simply didn’t feel effective to me. But I liked the other part of the on-island storyline when Kate, Sayid and Locke along with Danielle and Mikhail continued their journey to the Others’ residence. Locke’s radical behavior was beginning to unveil as he pushed Mikhail through the sonar fence, causing him to experience a severe seizure. And John was also revealed to have stolen a C4 from the Flame, implying that he knew the station would explode. The group finally arrived to the Barracks and saw Jack running towards them, but he was actually playing football with Tom. I cannot imagine how Kate was feeling at that moment… Overall, this episode is more of an average one for me.

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    83. So happy to see so many of them up there together ❤️ Congrats to the winners! Gutted that Emilia and Kit (and so many others) didn’t win, but at least they were recognised. Whatever the thoughts of S8, GOT has been such an incredible cinematic feat & cultural phenomenon, so am so glad it landed that final Best Drama win to round it out.

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    84. singedbylife,

      Indeed. Tyrion’s character had the same nonsensical lack of development as the others. Dinklage is a terrific actor, but Alfie Allen was far more deserving for his work in Season 8. Very disappointing that Gwendoline Christie didn’t win. She was marvelous and her character was the only one who grew in Season 8.

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    85. MiaMoon,

      “That is totally ridiculous! Both Imdb and rotten tomatoes really showed that their whole system of rating is total BS! Although RT even with the executed witch hunt was still at 52% approval rating.”

      Hundreds of thousands / millions of people were right when they voted Winds of Winter (my favorite episode) 9.9 and The Children (my second favorite episode) 9.7.
      They somehow turned into idiots this year.

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    86. Shy Lady Dragon:
      I consider Peter a solid professional, but I haven’t been impressed by his skill after season 4. On the other hand, Alfie was magnificent, but he got no Emmy, as compared with Peter’s four. As others have mentioned above, Maisie and Lena, Nikolaj and Gwendoline would have deserved recognition for their acting.
      But let’s say like Carice did: at least they all looked lovely, Maisie’s dress is my favourite. I’m glad that Maisie and Emilia appeared as brunettes again, it’s more suitable for them imo.

      I agree totally. This year I had hoped for Alfie, Emilia, Maisie (with Lena as backup), and Carice. Alas, Kit’s performance suffered from a deficit of dialogue at critical junctures.

      Maisie’s dress is a story in itself. Something that whimsical, artsy, breezy and utterly matched to the wearer can only be a product of love: https://www.elle.com/fashion/a29174417/maisie-williams-emmys-2020-game-of-thrones/

      By the way, I’m in the minority regarding Gwendoline’s dress. It was clever and imposing, as well as eye-catchingly gaudy. Nobody else could have carried it off. But crikey, it had so much billowy material that it looked like a cross between a oversized toga and a red and white clipper ship. It reminded me of the comical costumes of provincial Christmas pantomimes. “Oh no she doesn’t.” “Oh, yes she does.” “Oh, no she doesn’t.” “Oh yes she does.” I cannot un-see it.

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    87. Iul,

      Who’s to say that the same people who cast their votes for WOW and The Children are the same people who voted for season 8?

      For example, there were waaaaaay more people that submitted a vote for season 8 episodes than the other ones you mentioned.

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    88. Ten Bears:
      _______ • For S8, Maisie Williams sure deserved the Emmy, and I have no doubt that Lena Headey and Gwendoline Christie siphoned off enough votes to enable Julia Garner to squeak by. (Lena deserved the Emmy for any of the prior seven seasons. S8… not so much. She had negligible screen time, and even in her submitted episode, “The Bells,” MW outshone her.)

      100% agree! I was rather afraid that vote-splitting would have a negative impact on the outcome of the supporting actress category, and although it will be tough to know for sure how much affect it had, I think a GoT actress would have walked away with it if there were only two of them nominated. In my opinion, the two most deserving to be there are Lena and Maisie. Ah well, what’s done is done, and their performances will stand the test of time!

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    89. Ten Bears:
      Tron79,

      …”The Long Night” was really unprecedented in TV (and perhaps film), and I was hoping he would get recognized with the win. The way he changed POV’s, styles, and mood throughout the movie length episode was outstanding. I actually think “The Bells” may have been even better (artistically) for Sapo.”

      ______As I alluded to earlier, the shifting POV’s, styles and moods may have seemed disjointed to some viewers/voters. And yes, artistically, I thought “The Bells” was the better Sapochnik episode. Of course, I confess that I was engrossed by the scene of the camera following Arya running the gauntlet of Dany’s Inferno.

      Yes…and I have said many times, I will always see Arya standing between the buildings as the ashes rain down on her (right before she finds her pony again).

      BTW, I was delayed with work finishing Storm of Swords, but I will finish today! (20 pages left that I will read tonight after getting home from work). I will talk some here about my book journey since some have discussed D&D’s writing in this thread. There are parts of the book that are amazing that aren’t in the show, but I was surprised at how many things were in the show that I loved that weren’t in the book (in SOS). At some point I’ll put in a spoiler tag and discuss, but I was impressed even more with D&D in season 3 and 4 (that’s where most of SOS material is I think). The writing D&D did was pretty brilliant to adapt GRRM’s source material and actually make it even better (for me in places). There are some things that I loved more about the books as well. I’m taking notes along the way to write my reactions… I’m about to embark on my two in one “Boiled Leather” book journey… I have to say there aren’t many Arya chapters in the last two books, so it’s going to be a challenge for me, but that’s probably why Arya swept alot in season 5 (I’m guessing).

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    90. Stark Raven’ Rad,

      Thanks for the story of Maisie’s dress, it was interesting to read.
      I must admit I don’t like Gwendoline’s dress per se, but its hidden significance, which has been explained by Jenny above. But Gwen is such a great model, that she could wear anything and look good.

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    91. Ten Bears,

      I really didn’t think it was disjointed at all. I thought it was a great adaptation of GRRM’s POV style of switching from chapter to chapter. I thought it fit really well, and as SAPO was saying you never get battle weary with the way he changed moods and styles. I was literally on the edge (of my seat or about to fall off of some edge) the entire time. I just wished they would have let Arya battle longer with her spear weapon on the battlements. As you have said before, if you blinked you may have missed it, and Maisie was really awesome doing those action scenes.

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    92. Ten Bears:
      Tron79,

      After you mentioned that you “will always see Arya standing between the buildings as the ashes rain down on her (right before she finds her pony again)”, I hunted around for that image:

      https://assets.gqindia.com/photos/5cdc071262fe4004e483f1b2/master/pass/top-image87.jpg

      YEEEEEEES!!! That’s the one. There was someone else here on WotW that mentioned a Japanese director that did similar types of artistic shots. I don’t recall the director’s name now, and I should have written it down to find more of his work…

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    93. I didn’t expect Kit or Emilia or Lena to win their categories this year, because while I think they’re all amazing, I didn’t feel like it was a standout season for them in particular.

      I really thought Maisie would take supporting actress (even though her role was far from supporting). Her scenes escaping through the destruction of Kings Landing are etched in my mind forever. This was *her* season to shine and deserved much more recognition for it.

      I also expected Sapochnik to win for The Long Night/directing. That was an incredible feat of engineering and creativity. Sure you had to watch it on a good TV, but it was the kind of episode that moves an entire industry forward. Ozark is fine but it’s not an accomplishment of the same proportions.

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    94. Mr Derp:
      Iul,

      Who’s to say that the same people who cast their votes for WOW and The Children are the same people who voted for season 8?

      For example, there were waaaaaay more people that submitted a vote for season 8 episodes than the other ones you mentioned.

      Not so difficult if you make 10 accounts and give every episode a 1 ten times. I think if they delete the votes from people who voted with 2 accounts or more that season 8 would score a much higher score. Maybe it’s still the least on average. But I think they score at least a 8 every episode then.

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    95. Tron79: I will talk some here about my book journey since some have discussed D&D’s writing in this thread.

      Please don’t.
      Make a thread in the Forum instead. Then we will be able to find it quickly and follow it easily. Your book journey sounds like it will be so interesting, with your thoughts on how the show compares with the source.

      Conversations tacked on to these articles are of the moment – they will disappear down the pages, never to be found again. The forums were created for discussions, and we should be making use of them.

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    96. Tron79,

      Same here, some things are better in the books some better in the show. I for instance love the Sandor/Arya story in season 4 that was not so big in the books. But I though her story in season 3 was better in the books. Did you catch that scene I was referring to? That woman calling Arya beautiful.

      And good luck with boiled leathers. Have fun with it. I wish you good luck in the boiling to come 🙂

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    97. Ten Bears:
      Tron79,

      After you mentioned that you “will always see Arya standing between the buildings as the ashes rain down on her (right before she finds her pony again)”, I hunted around for that image:

      https://assets.gqindia.com/photos/5cdc071262fe4004e483f1b2/master/pass/top-image87.jpg

      Beautiful. Same as Tyrion in episode 6. Or Sandor with his brother and the chaos in the background. Sapo is amazing. Or his above the sky scene in episode 3.

      And I’m very eager now to show you guys a beautiful picture a dutch photographer shot last week that went around the world. That one was amazingly shot and he should be working on the next HBO project.

      Grandmaester Flash,

      Sounds like a great idea. I think I will look into the forum tomorrow.

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    98. ThisGirlHasNoName,

      ”I really thought Maisie would take supporting actress (even though her role was far from supporting). Her scenes escaping through the destruction of Kings Landing are etched in my mind forever. This was *her* season to shine and deserved much more recognition for it.”

      ______
      Amen to that.

      I felt she had been relegated to the sidelines for much of S6 and S7 – apart from her signature decimation of House Frey. I also wasn’t thrilled with the whole PsychoArya vs. FranticSansa vs. DumbedDown LF S7 story line.
      However, I share your view that S8 was Arya’s moment to shine, and I thought she was the clear cut MVP of S8. (Though I wish there would’ve been more “high thread count” Jon & Arya scenes, I was more than content with the payoff of the Arya & Sandor story.)

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    99. Tron79: YEEEEEEES!!! That’s the one. There was someone else here on WotW that mentioned a Japanese director that did similar types of artistic shots. I don’t recall the director’s name now, and I should have written it down to find more of his work…

      One of my favourite sequences in the show, and easily a stand-out in S8! I would love an artist’s rendition (painting or illustration) of that image to hang on my wall!

      And who was it that said that Brienne was the only character with growth in S8 out of the nominees? Uh.. hello..? If this whole sequence of Arya in “The Bells” isn’t growth, I don’t know what is!

      I will always get really wistful and nostalgic when I see this image — I remember exactly the moment I watched this on TV and my reaction to it. I miss this show..

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    100. kevin1989:
      Tron79,

      Same here, some things are better in the books some better in the show. I for instance love the Sandor/Arya story in season 4 that was not so big in the books. But I though her story in season 3 was better in the books. Did you catch that scene I was referring to? That woman calling Arya beautiful.

      And good luck with boiled leathers. Have fun with it. I wish you good luck in the boiling to come

      Yes agree with beautiful…

      Yes, I liked the scenes where they put Arya in a dress in the book (since they were trying to dress her “appropriately”. They did the same thing to Brienne. It didn’t last long…especially when Arya got them muddy or tore them and pretty quickly got something more practical (‘male’) to wear again later. But I was thinking Maisie would have been thrilled with even a brief change of costume. She was thrilled once she got to Bravos and could change finally.

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    101. Grandmaester Flash,

      you’ve said this earlier and I don’t see the problem. If the issue doesn’t interest you let others enjoy (since end of show I think I’ve been involved in about 4 of these and find them very interesting but they are not everyone’s cuppa) Im not a fan of the forum. I guess those in the discussion could make it known this was happening if they desired. But I wouldnt want to stop them I dunno maybe ask Sue to make a post for the discussion? Or somewhere announce where all the cool kids are hanging out? 😉

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    102. Jack Bauer 24,

      Issac was on stage in the final presentation.

      I mean he was not in the nominee group because he was not a nominee.

      As mention by me I wish some of the other season 8 non-nominees had of been there.

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    103. Nathalie Emmanuel look quite elegant with a different presentation than usual.

      George Martin seemed kind of to hang back a bit this go round.

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    104. ash:
      Grandmaester Flash,
      you’ve said this earlier and I don’t see the problem. If the issue doesn’t interest you let others enjoy (since end of show I think I’ve been involved in about 4 of these and find them very interesting but they are not everyone’s cuppa) Im not a fan of the forum.I guess those in the discussion could make it known this was happening if they desired.But I wouldnt want to stop them I dunno maybe ask Sue to make a post for the discussion?Or somewhere announce where all the cool kids are hanging out? 😉

      What on earth gave you the impression that it didn’t interest me? It interests me very much, which is precisely why I suggested starting a thread in the Forum.

      Sue doesn’t need to “make a post for the discussion”. That’s what the forum was created for. What is your problem with it? It’s structured for continuing discussions in dedicated threads, unlike the place we are now which is intended for discussing the subject in the article immediately above. Come back in a month or so, and you won’t remember where any of these posts were if you wanted to find them again. Also Tron79’s other posts about reading the books are scattered in several other places.

      It makes sense to use the forum as it was intended. For discussions that can be easily found in their own dedicated threads. There is a section there already for discussing the books, and Tron could start a topic in there.

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    105. kevin1989,

      And GOT would have got 20 emmy’s if they used the direwolves like the books!

      I was most excited on how Ghost was used and that he stuck around during the wildling adventure with Ygritte and co. It wasn’t until later that Jon told him he had to go back to Castle Black. And I loved when Ghost finally showed back up and helped Jon make his decision. The Direwolves were just a major part of the book and I wish they would have spent the money on them.

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    106. Enharmony1625,

      ”One of my favourite sequences in the show, and easily a stand-out in S8! I would love an artist’s rendition (painting or illustration) of that image to hang on my wall!

      ______
      I’ve used an inexpensive color printer and large address labels and photographic copy paper to capture favorite images.

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    107. David Peterson was invited one single premiere that I know of.
      Not on stage but there.
      He sure should of been there somewhere for the Emmys, maybe he was at an after party ?

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    108. Mango,

      The writing in GOT8 was hilariously/distressingly bad.

      That is the shrill opinion of a few but not of many. You got so bewitched by Dany Targ that you didn’t see it coming when she got GRRM’d. Were you expecting happy ever after with hubby and baby walking into the sunset? GOT was never going to serve up that. It was always shocking and unpredictable – but in the end consistent and coherent. Be smarter next time.

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    109. I thought it was well known that there was a coordinated reddit campaign to bomb S8 after the long night and there are clearly a lot of first time accounts scoring it as 1/10 something that never noticeably happened before that episode aired and didn’t start until shortly afterwards either.

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    110. Stark Raven’ Rad,

      Oh, I’m relieved to see that I’m not the only one who didn’t like Gwendoline’s outfit. I was thinking someone had pulled down the curtains from a gaudy Italian hotel room and pinned them to Gwen’s white nightgown. Not becoming at all but it wasn’t boring.

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    111. Tron79,

      Agree rather them than some dragons.

      Jon Snowed,

      Spot on. Even season 7 episodes were downgraded some after that happened. But a bit lesser. I remember that even episode 8×02 was dropped heavily after that downgrade bombing.

      I did at least make an account 2 months ago, never had any, and I have given every episode of GoT the voting they deserved in my eyes. (Not even more for season 8 than I would think it was just honest vote). So I did my duty.

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    112. I typed a long comment but unfortunately it wouldn’t “take”. It’s a pity more people don’t like the forums but I guess each to his/her own. One part of the forums is where people can discuss the books – or book to show changes – without spoiling the book story for people who haven’t read them yet.

      I know sometimes this site is visited by people from the entertainment industry. If anybody who is a writer or adaptor/dramatist could say something about what they think about when adapting source material (in general terms not necessarily pertaining to ASOIAF) I’d be interested – but then I’m only one person.

      I’m glad that GoT had a reasonable showing at its final Emmy event

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    113. People have mixed feelings about the material PD was given to work with this year. I thought his acting in episode 6 season 8 shone in such scenes as – finding his twin siblings dead, resigning as Hand of the Queen, “selling” the killing of Dany to Jon.

      Well cherubs, must tear myself away, I want to find out if I can find out who is responsible these days for the books by the late Louisa May Alcott and then get up a petition to ask them to change the story so that Jo marries Laurie. *

      (* I am joking).

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    114. Dame of Mercia:
      I typed a long comment but unfortunately it wouldn’t “take”.It’s a pity more people don’t like the forums but I guess each to his/her own. One part of the forums is where people can discuss the books – or book to show changes – without spoiling the book story for people who haven’t read them yet.

      I know sometimes this site is visited by people from the entertainment industry.If anybody who is a writer or adaptor/dramatist could say something about what they think about when adapting source material (in general terms not necessarily pertaining to ASOIAF) I’d be interested – but then I’m only one person.

      I’m glad that GoT had a reasonable showing at its final Emmy event

      I’ve had a problem registering for the forum. Well, the registration is fine, but I never get activated. I tried a couple times over the years, and I never get an email back. It always says I’m not activated yet and it’s waiting for someone to activate me.. I just registered again under tron_79 and I sent a request to help me activate my original Tron79. I would like to use the forum to discuss books/show

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    115. ash:
      Grandmaester Flash,
      so? the people who participated did and enjoyed it

      What’s your point?
      My point is that basing a topic of discussion in the forum gives it permanence. People will be able to find and follow a coherent discussion, and join in. At any time.

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    116. Tron79: I’ve had a problem registering for the forum. Well, the registration is fine, but I never get activated. I tried a couple times over the years, and I never get an email back. It always says I’m not activated yet and it’s waiting for someone to activate me.. I just registered again under tron_79 and I sent a request to help me activate my original Tron79. I would like to use the forum to discuss books/show

      Hi Tron
      I suggest you send a message to the admins. Use the ‘Contact Us’ tab at the top of the page. I’m sure they’ll be able to sort it out.

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    117. Frankly, I was shocked that it won Best Drama after being shut out of the directing awards (even the directors NOT D&D). I wouldn’t want to be in the C suite at HBO this week considering their industry power couldn’t even bring home final season nods for Veep and Julia Louis- Dreyfus over that cringe comedy Fleabag.

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    118. LadyGoodman:
      Frankly, I was shocked that it won Best Drama after being shut out of the directing awards (even the directors NOT D&D). I wouldn’t want to be in the C suite at HBO this week considering their industry power couldn’t even bring home final season nods for Veep and Julia Louis- Dreyfus over that cringe comedy Fleabag.

      Which comedy did win? Veep was amazing, especially it’s last season. And Julia Louis-Dreyfus is one of the best when it comes to acting in comedy.

      Oh I see Fleabag is the comedy show. I though you meant that as an insult to the one that won XD

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    119. Iul,

      Iul: Hundreds of thousands / millions of people were right when they voted Winds of Winter (my favorite episode) 9.9 and The Children (my second favorite episode) 9.7.
      They somehow turned into idiots this year.

      First of all I loved BoB and WoW two of my favorite episodes so at least we have that in common. But to be honest I never depend on either of those two sites to determine if something is good or bad. Depending upon the situation it can be manipulated. Haters making multiple accounts (yeah some people have too much time on their hands!). Some episodes had extremely low ratings before they even aired. How is that possible? People didn’t like how the series was ending because it didn’t fit their view of how it should end so they attacked the show. So I would not use either of those sites as fact. Just my opinion.

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    120. LadyGoodman:
      Frankly, I was shocked that it won Best Drama after being shut out of the directing awards (even the directors NOT D&D). I wouldn’t want to be in the C suite at HBO this week considering their industry power couldn’t even bring home final season nods for Veep and Julia Louis- Dreyfus over that cringe comedy Fleabag.

      HBO did win quite a few awards. Succession and Chernobyl for example 🙂 did well. I don’t think the were two upset. Also, GoT itself won 12 awards. I never even heard of Fleabag before the Emmy Awards. Guess now I will watch it.

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    121. Grandmaester Flash: What’s your point?
      My point is that basing a topic of discussion in the forum gives it permanence.People will be able to find and follow a coherent discussion, and join in.At any time.

      I don’t entirely disagree, but I don’t think that anyone is trying to continue a discussion in perpetuity.

      I think a lot of the conversations/discussions/debates that go on here are mostly spontaneous and are not organized, nor are people trying to make them more organized. I can only speak for myself though.

      Besides, no one really ever uses the Forum section. If you try to start a conversation there it’ll die on the vine.

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    122. Mr Derp,

      Haven’t you been reading Tron79’s occasional posts about reading the books and comparing them with the show?

      I’m not surprised if you haven’t, as they are scattered in various places, which is why I suggested a forum thread to keep them in one place. Tron is in favour of doing that.

      If you aren’t interested in Tron’s reading journey then you don’t need to follow it, but some of us would like to.

      I don’t understand the negativity. People can stay away from the forum if they want to, but they shouldn’t try and dissuade others from using it.

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    123. Grandmaester Flash,

      I figure I could also give a link over to the forum if I start using it. Hopefully they will activate me.

      I did search more emmys this morning and watched the post interview. I think they have finally said all they will say. They have heard all the questions and even the interviewers were having trouble coming up with questions. Kit said he hasn’t even watched season 8 yet. I really liked Maisie’s dress. Emelia’s not so much.

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    124. Grandmaester Flash:
      Mr Derp,

      Haven’t you been reading Tron79’s occasional posts about reading the books and comparing them with the show?

      I’m not surprised if you haven’t, as they are scattered in various places, which is why I suggested a forum thread to keep them in one place.Tron is in favour of doing that.

      If you aren’t interested in Tron’s reading journey then you don’t need to follow it, but some of us would like to.

      I don’t understand the negativity.People can stay away from the forum if they want to, but they shouldn’t try and dissuade others from using it.

      There’s no negativity here. At least, not from me. You’re being a little bit aggressive with your Forum suggestions and I was simply telling you why your suggestion might not work as well as you’re hoping.

      And no, I’m not following Tron’s posts, but you are more than welcome to. I’m not sure why this even needs to be said.

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    125. Jon Snowed:
      I thought it was well known that there was a coordinated reddit campaign to bomb S8 after the long night and there are clearly a lot of first time accounts scoring it as 1/10 something that never noticeably happened before that episode aired and didn’t start until shortly afterwards either.

      Exactly!

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    126. I actually credited an IMDB account to review the Long Night and gave it a 9/10 whilst also recognising some minor criticism I have just to counter balance some of the deliberate trolling which was taking place.

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    127. Jon Snowed,

      This is exactly why sites like Rotten Tomatoes and IMBD have no credibility. Too many of the reviews are dishonest and have ulterior motives.

      It seems like most of the review scores these days are more about what people want others to feel about a movie/show rather than a reflection of their own feelings.

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    128. Mr Derp,

      I remember back then when people would go and vote on imdb and posts reviews when they were “film and serie geeks”. It’s was kind of a hobby or work for them. Back then those ratingsystems were more objective (the rating that it got in the end) because it was all about giving an honest opinion about a movie or tv show, not that they were 100% objective with that was it for them, giving their honest opinion. But now when everybody because of social media thinks they can scream their opinion and force those opinion on others. That’s why now those ratings and reviews are less objective then they use too, it’s not about people who are “film and serie geeks” its now all about everyone wanting to express their anger, frustrations and showing that they are right and nobody else.

      I remember back when imdb was just about those geeks that even when they disagreed they had respect for each other. Now you see many times reviews with “poster….. is 100% wrong, he doesn’t understand, he is paid by ….” etc. And the whole system that made imdb and RT so good was turn to *beep* because of it.

      And the thing that scares me more about this trend is the loudest people right now reviewing series and movies are not “film geeks” but are people wanting “fan service”. And the big problem of that is that different kind of unique series that we got in the past will disappear because of it, back then unique series got the highest score. But what’s happening now is that we will see high rated shows that are all the same, that fit that mainstream fanservice kind of storytelling. And that’s a shame.

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    129. kevin1989,

      I just think it’s silly that people care so much about other people’s opinions on entertainment that they feel the need to do these things. I enjoy a spirited debate as long as both sides are respectful and don’t go out of their way to be snarky or antagonistic, but I really do think that a lot of people have a problem accepting the fact that not everyone is going to share the same opinion. Some people just take it way too personally. I don’t get it.

      Isn’t it more fun when others have different viewpoints? I would hate to be surrounded by people who just agree with everything I say all the time. It gets boring and doesn’t really challenge oneself to go outside his/her comfort zone. Again, as long as it’s respectful and comes from an honest place.

      We live in a world where everyone wants to be respected, but no one wants to give any respect.

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    130. Thanks, Clob! I came across this the other day from the Emmys if anyone’s interested — ‘The Power of Television’. It uses Jaime’s speech when he’s knighting Brienne in 802 as the main narration. Has some more GoT stuff, such as Arya shanking the Night King 🙂 (Starts at about 2:00 in)

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    131. Mr Derp,

      True, agree fully.

      But the problem that happen with this, that a small group will decide what the next generation of TV shows will be. I rather have a wide arrangement of kind of TV shows than just one kind that I’m afraid we are heading to. Everything needs to be fanserviced. And that’s a shame. When only the TV geeks gave their opinions at least we got many different kind of TV shows. Because everyone liked a different kind of TV show. And I like diversity. Sometimes a show like lost, another time more like the shield. Different kind of shows. Look at Netflix everything has the same template. That it’s starting to get annoying.

      And also for me when Im searching for a new TV show to watch I always look at what’s highly rated. And the genre didn’t matter for me, I just watch it and enjoy it. Back then when I wanted something fun I look up for a show between a 7 and a 8.5 and a more serious show between 8.5 and 10.most of the time this was accurate. Now too many mainstream shows are having a high rating there which are too safe with their story and doesn’t feel like it’s unique.

      Or I’m just getting old(er).

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    132. Mr Derp: There’s no negativity here.At least, not from me.You’re being a little bit aggressive with your Forum suggestions and I was simply telling you why your suggestion might not work as well as you’re hoping.

      And no, I’m not following Tron’s posts, but you are more than welcome to.I’m not sure why this even needs to be said.

      If you HAD been reading Tron’s posts, you would understand.

      All I suggested was that Tron made a forum thread for the book posts, rather than posting them randomly below whichever article is the latest at the time. Why do you think it “won’t work as well as I’m hoping”? I don’t know what you imagine I’m “hoping” for. The aim is that interested parties will be able to find them and read them in order and see when there is a new post. And if they’re in a dedicated forum thread, we will be able to.

      Now I shan’t say another word on the subject, I didn’t expect it to be such hard work.

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    133. My two piastres: Alfie Allen should have won. Such nuanced and sensitive work at such a young age! It’s scary to contemplate what he’ll be capable of as he matures. One to watch, my fellow WoWers.

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    134. Honestly disappointed it was Dinklage AGAIN…I know he’s a fellow Jerseyan, but is he seriously the only one out of the entire ginormous, phenomenal cast who’s won? And done so multiple times? That’s wild. It’s as if they just automatically give it to him now, and Tyrion being one of the main “mascot” characters, figure that he kind of represents the rest. But it easily could’ve been Alfie or Nikolaj (or one of the four non-GoT dudes.) Feels kinda like watching the same Wire Fox Terrier get Best in Show again (while your favorite breed doesn’t even place in the group. xD) Then all four supporting ladies (three of whom surely had a shot), plus Emilia & Kit went empty-handed. Lena yet again on the last chance. Drama was sort of a given though–a cumulative legacy win for the cast & crew before the show finally bows out of the competition for good. That’s nice.
      My biggest disappointment (Guest Actress) was gotten out of the way early; I really really wanted that for Carice. (Speaking of whom, I liked her & Lena’s dresses the best. Talked all about the outfits on my blog…Gwen is always so, wow…etc. x~3)

      I have too little interest in most of the other nominated series to have ever done a lot more than root for Thrones folk. Directing I suppose I’d have given to “The Long Night.” My biggest problem with that one was that it wasn’t only the beginning of the climactic war with the dead. If the Night King’s and Melisandre’s deaths had come at the end of episode 4 or 5, I’d have been thrilled. But I mean, it was directed well. Writing had to be anything else since they didn’t submit one from the front half of the season; probably should’ve tried #2.

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    135. Long overdue comment because of my depression the way things turned out.

      First of all, congrats to everybody who’s ever worked on the show, on camera and behind it. It’s extremely important that they got to be nominated in the first place. Competition is hard, unfortunately.
      PD is apparently their favorite person from GOT. His acting was superb.
      Emilia was also very good, but compared to Jodie Comer she didn’t really stand a chance, because Comer was unbelievable. The story relied on the characters of PD and EC for the most part, it was kind of expected that PD would get the emmy and that EC would rather not because of the competition.
      It was also kind of expected that GOT would get best drama as a tribute for ten years of good entertainment.
      Rather surprising that it didn’t win best direction; I think it was rather unfair, but it is true that direction can be supported when there’s a script, and ep.3 had very little of it.

      I am sorry to say but I am glad it didn’t get best script. That last script that was submitted was like the writers directing the audience what to think. The point is that they should have made the audience understand that by showing it, and then it would have felt complete and the last script could be a meditation on power instead of a dictation. They saved their words for last and it didn’t work.

      I think I’m one of the first over here to have said that the script doesn’t support the acting nominations, and I am really sad that I was right. No matter how good the acting (in some cases, superb), if much of the screen time is taken up by action scenes and the lines are restricted to senseless repetitions, pass phrases, clichees and jokes that have been heard over and over in GOT then the actors are done an injustice. There has to be some character development and it needs to be shown, not saved for fear of spoiling the “oh shit” moment (which in this case the larger part of the thinking, engaged audience knew it’d come).

      I’m really sad though for all our protagonists who gave enerything they had with very little to work on. It would have been nice if they got recognition, but they should have been nominated and supported by the production in earlier seasons when scripts were much better and there was actually a plot (because there was none in season 8). I’m thinking of KH, EC, LH, NCW, AA but also ST and MW.

      Congrats either way to everybody. We love them anyway and no one ever started watching GOT for the awards it’d get. It was ten wonderful years of expecting for the next season to air. Now we’ll be expecting the actors’ next works where it’s certain that they’ll have plenty of opportunity to unfold their talents.

      CONGRATS; CONGRATS; CONGRATS.

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