Emilia Clarke and more filming in Navarre as prep continues in Peñíscola

According to DiarioDeNavarra, filming started today in the Bardenas Real Natural Park, and in spite of heavy security, news is leaking out.  DDN reports that Emilia Clarke was seen filming in the area, along with several Dothraki extras on horseback. Also spotted shooting in Navarre this week is 

Michiel Huisman.

We have some photos from the Plaza Santa Maria in Peñíscola showing that work proceeds apace and props are beginning to arrive. Plus, news of another possible filming location in Peñíscola!

More after the jump:

WotW reader Delano shared these photos of the set in Plaza Santa Maria in progress:

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A well lit roadway with signs that say keep out.

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Prop boxes with the Dragon filming unit insignia.  We still don’t know the exact use of the Plaza, but reports say that local extras are being costumed as Unsullied, slaves, and soldiers, which points toward Essos and Meereen for the city.

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And here are more props that seem to indicate a marketplace setting.

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And the last two shots show a balcony that was given new facing to disguise the modern metal work.

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Thanks to our reader Delano for these photos!  Similar photos have been posted on Facebook by the City of Peñíscola.

What do you think they’re putting in those alcoves beneath the balcony?  One of Delano’s photos above show closer detail of a faux wall with a small window.

And finally todopeniscola.com is reporting that Artillery Park in Peñíscola may be used to shoot some important scenes and that HBO is working very hard to keep it quiet.

Todopeniscola speculates that the location could be for a dark and secret type of location, perhaps a dungeon.

Could this be the new home for Dany’s two still-dragons?

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    1. Definitely Meereen: the wooden structure in the first pic looks like the ones on the walls of Meereen or Daenys podium at Daznak and the tavern props look exactly like the Meereenese tavern in season 5 (Braavos or King’s Landing tavern props look different).

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    2. R&V need to escape early in S6, right? Who will be the curious one to make the futile attempt to tame/ride one?

      Also, I’m getting the strong feeling that Dany won’t be coming back to Meereen. She may instruct Tyrion & Daario to start sailing west with her navy, but I doubt she will set foot in Meereen again.

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    3. One site did say in the scene there will be unsullied, slaves and soldiers. So yeah, it can only be meereen. Not to mention that box with the targaryen sigil.

      I have no idea what’s gonna happen with Daario and Jorah. But it doesn’t make any sense for them to rescue Dany when she’s gonna be surrounded by thousands of dothraki. At most I hope they are captured as captives even though the dothraki don’t take any shit. They’d probably be killed. Perhaps they’ll just film in the same area looking for Dany.

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    4. Break the wheel!

      I’m actually intrigued by Dany’s arc this season… A first for me I think!
      I expect Deus ex Dragona like many people, but it should be fun!

      Also wondering what will come of Jorah’s Greyscale… How far will it progress and how infectious will it be etc…

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    5. Hodor’s Bastard,

      Though what about Rhaegal and Viserion? I do hope she frees them. Or if they scape she returns to go find them – even if at this point I believe she’ll have no control over them. I hope she burns those pyramids to the ground before she heads to Westeros.

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    6. WSOS, anything further on the photo that Emilia posted during the Emmys, in which she apparently is FACING Olite’s palace? The palace seems suited for filming.

      Queenofthrones: If Dany is fully damselled and rescued by daario and jorah I’m going to punch a horse

      I feel the same way as you if Daenerys is damselled again. Ugh! But I wouldn’t punch a horse, I would possibly punch a wall. 🙂

      I’m happy that it seems R&V will finally be freed. They didn’t do anything wrong, they were very angry at being dungeoned, but still did what Mom commanded in 5.05 (not more), and they need to soar free again. I hope Tyrion, inspired by the Daznak’s pit incident, goes and claims one of them for himself.

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    7. Karolyne,

      Actually the Targaryan sigil does not mean Dany’s storyline, it refers to the Dragon filming unit. The Wolf unit films in NI and Dragon roams overseas to wherever is needed. So that doesn’t tell us for sure that the Plaza will be used for Meereen BUT there are other things pointing toward that conclusion.

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    8. In the past I’d been a bit worried about how the switch from Croatia to Spain would affect the show’s look, but the Meereen shooting locations so far look like a good visual fit for the established aesthetic.

      The various legs of the shooting schedule on the continent are always interesting to watch, as different sections of the story are glimpsed in a jumble. Always makes for interesting puzzle pieces to try to fit together.

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    9. Luka Nieto,

      And my imagination was inflamed!

      The Plaza de Santa María just screams “battlements!” to me. If they’re doing a Battle of Fire, they will need a location in which to have a ton of Unsullied and a wall from which Tyrion and the others can command, yet it has to be constrained and enclosed enough so that not much CGI is needed in most shots; think the set they built for Blackwater, or the wooden palisade fencing in Hardhome. This Plaza could really do the job!

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    10. Queenofthrones:
      If Dany is fully damselled and rescued by daario and jorah I’m going to punch a horse

      ok no more spoilers for me.

      Why on Earth do you suddenly snap to such an assumption from the information you have available?

      I’ll have you know that if they sex-change Dany to a man, I will be soooooo mad.

      Besides, with all she’s done being rescued once (which won’t happen here) will far from make her a damsel.

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    11. Karolyne: I do hope she frees them

      They must escape and they must be freakin’ angry! They are the X factor in all this! Can they even be controlled at this point? Who will dare? And once they escape, I have no doubt that they will be able to find Drogon (or vice-versa).

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    12. I would think the two dragons can be controlled by the alpha dragon, Drogon. If Daeny can manage to somewhat control him, then the other two would eventually come along…I think. My ??? is about how they get out. For some reason I am thinking that Tyrion will go to check them out…curiosity out of nothing else and they gate crash up and out.

      I love the settings shown here. Very intriguing to say the least. Meereen is likely. From how last season left Daeny, we will have to see her with the Dothraki, even for a short time. Because Tyrion and Varys are in Meereen, she will have to end up there at some point or at the least they have to show those character arcs as they continue. When and where they merge is the question. Does Tyrion feel he has enough strength behind him to go back to KL? If he is traveling with Daeny? I would say arriving with three dragons in the air would scare the poochies out of most anyone. 😉

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    13. I don’t know if anyone has made this joke before. In case it has, I apologise in advance for plagiarism.

      – Daario: Hey, have I ever told you the khalessi and I did the dirty like, 10 times a night?
      – Jorah: Really? Dude, high five!
      They high-five. Daario realises Jorah has greyscale on his hand.
      – Daario: Motherf…..
      🙂

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    14. Karolyne,

      I have a hunch that Daario will discover Jorah has greyscale, and Jorah will kill him to keep it quiet.

      Jorah might still track her to Vaes Dothrak after that, but Dany will not be in need of rescue. She will take control of the khalasar somehow and return to Meereen where we might get the Battle of Fire, perhaps with Jorah at her side if she buys whatever story he comes up with to cover up Daario’s murder.

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    15. JCDavis: I would say arriving with three dragons in the air would scare the poochies out of most anyone.

      Definitely would be intimidating to do some fly-bys for every major city on her way to Westeros, then a KL flyover would realize Bran’s vision from S4.

      I believe Dany’s air force will arrive in Westeros significantly ahead of her navy and army.

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    16. I don’t want Daenerys to be damselled but I also don’t want her to bend the Dothraki to her will easily. She has to struggle for once instead of having deus-ex-dragona solve everything.

      Can we hope for a pic or two from Castillo de Zafra set? Even though there are only like 40 locals living nearby, maybe someone will bother to try and take photos with their super long-range zoom lenses.

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    17. Redstar: I don’t want Daenerys to be damselled but I also don’t want her to bend the Dothraki to her will easily. She has to struggle for once instead of having deus-ex-dragona solve everything.

      Huh? She struggled plenty with the Dothraki – all but a few loyal ones left her in the desert, then sent back the head of one of the loyal ones in a bloody saddlebag. The main horde have only heard about the dragons, but not seen them. I wouldn’t mind at all seeing Drogon land at Mom’s side somewhere on the Dothraki Sea to settle an argument; would rather see that than to have him stubbornly fly away and leave her hanging.

      She used a dragon in the scene where she traded one (Drogon?) to the Unsullied slave trader, then had the fool fried, but the dragon wasn’t rescuing her. The only time I can remember an actual “rescue” was in Daznak’s Pit. I think that was the first time of an actual rescue, otherwise she (and we) would have been expecting him, rather than she and Missandei clasping hands, preparing for the worst, and him bursting through a cloud of flame, much to our relief.

      As for releasing R&V, I hope it’s Tyrion, like someone else said. Peter has done such an excellent job of showing himself being totally mesmerized by the sight of a dragon. I can’t imagine that Tyrion would hear that the other two are chained downstairs, and not go to at least see them, then figure out how to use them. That should make for a couple of hilarious scenes.

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    18. Redstar: She has to struggle for once instead of having deus-ex-dragona solve everything.

      She has to struggle for once? Hahaha…. I love that you believe she never had to struggle and it was always deus-ex-dragona. I’ve watched a different GoT, for sure. 😉 Which come to think of it, i really think I have. I increasingly get that idea as I read more and more comments here from long-term book readers about the show. 😀

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    19. Thronetender: As for releasing R&V, I hope it’s Tyrion, like someone else said. Peter has done such an excellent job of showing himself being totally mesmerized by the sight of a dragon. I can’t imagine that Tyrion would hear that the other two are chained downstairs, and not go to at least see them, then figure out how to use them. That should make for a couple of hilarious scenes.

      As long as h doesn’t get the full-Quentyn, I’m all for this.

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    20. Gayle: As long as h doesn’t get the full-Quentyn, I’m all for this.

      Is there a show character currently in Meereen that could take Quentyn’s place? I can’t think of anyone off the top of my head.

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    21. Queenofthrones:
      If Dany is fully damselled and rescued by daario and jorah I’m going to punch a horse

      ok no more spoilers for me.

      Because it defies the Feminist narrative?

      That’s the issue I now have with Dany’s GoT arc, she has had the feminist cause hoisted on her shoulders and it disrupts the story

      As I said in another thread, loved the entitled, petulant spoiled brat outburst at the end of season 2 as it was full Targaryen

      Speaking of which, I don’t expect damseled at all, rather I expect Danys arc to revolve around her re-integrating with the Dothraki, and I expect there is more to come from Rhaego too

      in that there is some weird twist to blood magic thing that has happened which will mean he will come back as a fully grown man

      I expect Dany to throw the whole “trying to be Queen” thing aside and go fully deranged Fire + Blood Targaryen on everyones ass and become a Tyrant

      Might not suit the feminist narratives, but as we see with Cersei etc, women can be just as incompetent in leadership as men are just as QoT and Tywin shows men and women can be just competent as eachother. Competency is not gender biased,

      Neither is the need to be rescued occasionally, the highly competent Tyrion being a case in point

      There’s an argument going by Dragon Egg proximity dreams she is being influenced into being more confident somehow by an unseen actor, take this to the extreme and see where this is going… In ASOIF books I expect her to fake her death after the climactic battle and retire to the quiet life living in a house in Dorne with a red door

      [/spoiler]

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    22. Kay,

      That’s Stannis fanboy logic for you . Btw for those of you who don’t know Stannis fanboys=Dany haters in this fandom,they would constantly invent bad things to talk about Daenerys and how stupid and incompetent she is to try to make their hero seem better even though all that’s in the books and show don’t ever indicate that . But don’t worry it’s not going to be an issue anymore with the show and with the next book,we all know why,hahaha !

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    23. Thronetender,

      Yeah I can see her torching Khal Maego in the books, perhaps there will be a substitute in the show or they’ll do something illogical like omitting Marillion with the Lysa/Littlefinger push

      All in all though, I expect this to be some weird thing revolving around the Dothraki customs of how widowed Khaleesi are treated, eg she at the Horses heart quite well

      Truth be told I expect some fairly funky things to happen with regards to Rhaego which was a bloodmagic event with some loose ends (never saw the body), as we all saw in Season 1 with no Dragons, she pretty much got them on her side based on prophecy so I expect things to be more along this line than the whole “liberation of Slavers Bay” thing

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    24. Karolyne,

      I haven’t read through all the comments yet but I kind of hope that Dany wrests or is ceded control of the Khalasar(s) and when Jaario shows up to “rescue” her she’s running the place. Too cliche?

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    25. Every time I check out these set photos Im increasingly impressed by the number of wooden crates and barrels the prop department makes. The budget must be through the roof! We don’t really notice when watching the show but every major location has this stuff in the backgrounds of the exterior shots, and each location has different looking crates and barrels specific to that regions culture.

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    26. My theory is that something funky has happened, she drew Viserys blood in Vaes Dothrak at about the same time she had to eat the Horses heart soon after which Viserys was somewhat “sacrificed” and then Dany supposedly gave birth to a stunted Dragon later on.

      People presume the stunted Dragon relates to MMD’s antics but it may not be so straightforward, I reckon an unseen actor (glass candles everywhere!) interfered with what MMD was doing which is why she burned and screamed

      Given “only death pays for life”, I reckon the stunted Dragon was kind of Viserys (a perfect reflection of what he was as a Targaryen) and of course if we reverse that then we can get Rhaego as a fully grown man so there is a balance

      Hey it’s odd but not too far-fetched if we consider Khal Drogo + Witch burning allows for Dragon hatching

      Similar to how I think Shireens burning death pays not for melting Snow but rather directly pays for the resurrection of Jon Snow (hehe, how about that for a Pun) after his funeral rites and the words “and now his watch has ended”, a Princess exchanged for Prince so there is balance and of course Jon Snow is happily free of his NW vows!

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    27. Anguissette1979:
      Karolyne,

      I haven’t read through all the comments yet but I kind of hope that Dany wrests or is ceded control of the Khalasar(s) and when Jaario shows up to “rescue” her she’s running the place. Too cliche?

      Nar Rhaego will be running the place IMO

      🙂

      Looking forward to watching Qarth burn

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    28. They can definitely pull it off from certain camera angles, but doesn’t it seem counter-intuitive to film the “Great Grass Sea” in this desert in Navarre? This location looks completely opposite to the grassy cliffs where we last saw Dany in the S5 finale; even the entrance to Vaes Dothrak and the Mother of Mountains had a lush green backdrop in S1.

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    29. Boojam,

      Thanks for the link… Awesome pictures!

      That first pic though…
      My first thought was, “Why are Daario and Jorah (is it stunt-Dany?) leading the Khalasar into the big black tent?” XD

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    30. mau,

      Hard to say… Maybe he is dead by the time this scene takes place!?!

      For all we know though they may be doing a run-through before actually filming and Jorah is not on set yet… or he could be elsewhere too I guess…

      Personally I would expect Jorah to live until late into the season so they can explore his Greyscale a little, but who knows….

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    31. Boojam,

      Omfg! Best bts pics so far for season 6, thanks!

      Dany is already leading the khalasar lol and Daario besides her. Jorah though… I’m kinda afraid for him.

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    32. I really want to know what happened between S5E10 and this, Dany is not a captive , in fact seems a lot more than that, and she got Silver back!

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    33. Robb Snow,

      For the BTS pics that were just posted, Daario finds Dany at some point. Though idk how but I think Daario will die in the next season. If he does in the battle in Meereen this would make dany go full fire and blood.

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    34. Darquemode:
      mau,
      For all we know though they may be doing a run-through before actually filming and Jorah is not on set yet… or he could be elsewhere too I guess…

      The same excuse was used last year for Daznak and lack of Barristan.

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    35. Jorah said for 2 times the dothraki follow only the strong. And she’d get a true khalasar when she proved herself strong. I think it’s the same when it comes about control over Drogon. I doubt he’ll just show up, save her, and they’ll suddenly respect her. I think, like many have said, she’ll reconnect with the dothraki again. And somehow wins their respect. When she proves she’s strong, not afraid, remember what she’s meant to be, thats when she’ll get the khalasar and the control over Drogon.

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    36. Hodor’s Bastard,

      I’m petty sure via the books that a dornish (prince/king?) goes to try to control them in the dungeon, they of course will not have a bar of this and I think the green one fires them all up then escapes with the gold one where they both fly off and find separate lairs…someone correct me if I am wrong…..not sure how they will adapt this into the show.

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    37. mau,

      True!
      It’s only one scene, but if it becomes a pattern…. 🙁

      Karolyne,

      Maybe they will have Dany whip Drogon to control him like she did in Daznak’s pit in the books. That may show she is strong, or strong enough?

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    38. Ooh, don’t forget last season emphasized a reminder of Jorah defeating a Dothraki (The slaver even exaggerates that he actually killed Khal Drogo, at the auction)

      Maybe this was used to not only plausibly get Jorah into the fighting pits, but to foreshadow a reversal this season: Jorah DIES by the hands of the Dothraki.

      Or maybe not 🙂

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    39. loolaa,

      Yes…Quentyn Martell paid the iron price (to mix metaphors) for his pride and naivete. I am very intrigued if their “show” escape will be violent or will someone just let them free? In any case, they won’t be happy campers.

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    40. M:
      Can anyone ID the director from those pictures linked by Boojam?

      Answering my own question here, but someone on Twitter (https://twitter.com/serjgonzalez/status/646403236056952832) spotted Jack Bender in Tudela, Navarre, which is fairly close to Bardenas Reales where the pictures linked by Boojam were taken. So I’m guessing these scenes are from 6×05 or 6×06, which fits in with where I thought Dany’s arc should be at this point: she’s winning over the Dothraki, but she’s not back in Meereen.

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    41. M,

      Nice, thanks!
      I guess he could be in town preparing for his shoot on a different day as well maybe? More than likely his shoot though I would guess…. Like you noted, plot timeline wise it sounds about right.

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    42. Marcus:
      Kay,

      That’s Stannis fanboy logic for you . Btw for those of you who don’t know Stannis fanboys=Dany haters in this fandom,they would constantly invent bad things to talk about Daenerys and how stupid and incompetent she is to try to make their hero seem better even though all that’s in the books and show don’t ever indicate that . But don’t worry it’s not going to be an issue anymore with the show and with the next book,we all know why,hahaha !

      Stannis is way cooler and sexier than Dany. She’s a deranged tyrant. Fire and blood. I love me some sexy Stephen Dillane.

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    43. M,

      That is interesting because if it is correct then it means that the E7&8 will be Meereen and 9&10 will be the departure from Essos.

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    44. It makes no sense to have Jorah killed so early if he is not to spread the greyscale. Unless they want to use greyscale in combination with a continuing disbelief to him from Dany in order to intensify Jorah’s despair and no way out fate which might lead to a suicide mission or act…

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    45. Tyrion Pimpslap,

      ~ Nods
      It was the hair and what appears to me could be steel armor hanging off the horse that made me wonder, but yeah… It doesn’t look enough like him for me to be 50/50 even…
      That’s why I asked, thanks.

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    46. Hodor’s Bastard: R&V need to escape early in S6, right? Who will be the curious one to make the futile attempt to tame/ride one?

      I am betting that Tyrion ends up accidentally freeing them out of curiosity: he’ll just want to see them. However, finding a way to get two large dragons free should be the least of B&W’s challenges!

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    47. K Noelle,

      The show actually follows the books pretty dam well, minus the exclusion of Aegon, Quentyn, and Victarion (the show does need to finish in 8 seasons so I get why they were cut), but the meat and potatoes of the story is all the same.

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    48. JCDavis,

      I couldn’t help it. 😉

      And WOW those Khalasar photos are great! But… but Jorah! Where is he?? If he’s not buried in the sea of Dothraki Khalasar dudes and horses maybe he left the group on his own accord. He may have felt it were more respectful to Daenerys’ wishes. Or maybe he left to avoiding infecting her. Or maybe he’s dead.

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    49. Queenofthrones,

      Dany could never be “damselled”. That’s simple not what she is. She is the Mother of Dragons not the Prisoner of Dragons.
      Yes, Dany has been rescued before, but that doesn’t make her a damsel in distress, she is anything but that.

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    50. loolaa,
      Wimsey,

      Budgets be damned! Let them out, I say! I’m surprised they haven’t tested the heat resistance of their chains yet. Dany’s metallurgists were definitely at the top of their game in S4. Tyrion’s curiosity should play a role in their fate…maybe the SotH will force his hand?

      Just as an aside, it probably won’t happen in the show, but the apocalyptic images I have of R&V ravaging and burning Meereen, nesting at the top of a few pyramids, then going nuts during the siege, chasing rotting pale mare corpses in mid-air, is some of the strongest known stuff yet to be adapted. I can’t wait to read what’s next!

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    51. Boojam:
      http://www.demotix.com/photo/8632102/game-thrones-season-six-filming-northern-spain

      Awesome photos, thanks! 🙂 If Jorah is dead before passing greyscale all over Westeros, then he must have passed it on to Daario without Daario’s knowledge and Daario will take it to Westeros. Or else, Jorah has been dispatched to Meereen to bring them news of Daenerys. Her clothes seem a strange combination of Dothraki and her Astapor styles. Anyone knows who all the people in red cloaks on horses are? The Dothraki don’t wear bright red!

      By the way, I hope all those horses are taken care of well. How much does one make as an extra, if one is a horse?

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    52. Hodor’s Bastard,

      Hell yes that is some imagery! Can’t wait to see how this Mereenese madness all plays out.

      I don’t think we will see a quenten type of character get toasted while freeing the dragons- we have already seen them toast and grub on some fools in the dungeon, so I doubt we’ll see this again.

      My money is on Tyrion freeing them, either by some improvised defense strategy, or by accident.

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    53. Sister Kisser: we have already seen them toast and grub on some fools in the dungeon, so I doubt we’ll see this again.

      That’s an interesting point to make, SK. In ADwD, R&V toast many Unsullied as they resist being captured and chained (something I would have liked to see instead of weepy Dany), then they toast Quentyn and friends as he vainly attempts to tame them at the end of his ambitious/silly journey. But in the show, the dragons are fed humans by Dany….after they are chained for fear of eating another human!! Go figure.

      The whole “dragon chaining” thing in book and show was wrong, imo. R&V took the fall for Drogon’s actions and it seemed like GRRM didn’t know what to do with them in ADwD, other than make them angrier. Dany should have been training them as battle support & enforcement instead of fawning over Daario. 🙂

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    54. Queenofthrones:
      If Dany is fully damselled and rescued by daario and jorah I’m going to punch a horse

      ok no more spoilers for me.

      It was obvious from the moment she took off her ring that it was a Magic Ring of Daario Summoning. Because dropping a ring in the middle of a plains as big as the Great Plains of the US would obviously work, because….errr…D&J will somehow track the right Khal in the right direction and find the ring that wasn’t picked up or trampled into the mud and then recognize it after finding the literal needle in the haystack while not even looking for a needle.

      Heck, my keys fell out of my pocket once on my own front lawn and it took me half an hour to find them while actively looking for them.

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    55. Marcus:
      Kay,

      That’s Stannis fanboy logic for you . Btw for those of you who don’t know Stannis fanboys=Dany haters in this fandom,they would constantly invent bad things to talk about Daenerys and how stupid and incompetent she is to try to make their hero seem better even though all that’s in the books and show don’t ever indicate that . But don’t worry it’s not going to be an issue anymore with the show and with the next book,we all know why,hahaha !

      So you are admitting that Book-Stannis is more ethical and competent than Book-Dany? Then how is it “telling the same story” to swap this on TV? Though it is not clear they have…what did even TV-Stannis do that compares to crucifying 163 people based on their class and gender?

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    56. Hodor’s Bastard,

      Yeah, I think this is where a cost/benefit analysis for the visual storytelling medium probably comes into play. To show the chaining scene as it was in the books would be that much more vfx, cgi, and live action stunt crew. I think DnD probably decided on a “cheaper” route, thinking that as it were her decision to chain them, she should be the one to “swing the sword”.

      As we have seen some version of a dungeon roast already, I doubt they will use the screen time and resources necessary to build up to and execute another one of those moments, and I just don’t see a main character in Essos who will go out like that.

      I hope we see Meereen falling apart, perhaps under siege by a coalition of slavers bay naval forces (tho the whole battle of fire is seeming less likely- who knows how they will proceed). I think it would make sense from a storytelling perspective for Tyrion to defend the city in a similar manner as Blackwater, but perhaps his test here is just managing the internal conflicts/fallout of Dany’s exodus. But damn I would love to see RnV torching the city and perching on it’s smoldering pyramids, while dead, disease ridden horses are chucked over the city walls. Would be so epic. Hard to tell how Meereen will go down this season. I used to think the siege and impending battle was a given for the show. Now I’m not so sure.

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    57. Chad Brick,

      I always find this objection strange. When Dany dropped her ring she was within walking distance of Drogon’s nest/perch. If Jorah and Daario track Drogon to there they’ll see abundant evidence of the khalasar. And then the ring in the middle of the circular horse tracks confirms what happened. Then they simply follow the khalasar.

      But the first step is tracking Drogon. Dragons are big and they leave an impression on witnesses.

      It might be a tad farfetched but aren’t most television shows when it comes to tracking? Suspension of disbelief.

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    58. Nate Cousins: We don’t really notice when watching the show but every major location has this stuff in the backgrounds of the exterior shots, and each location has different looking crates and barrels specific to that regions culture.

      Um yeah, I had my eye on the shipping crate with the red 3 headed dragon stamped on the side. That stamped section would look great on my wall.

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    59. You know… A couple of months ago, I joked that WOTW will probably spend half of Dany’s pages on the Dothraki, and she will just be leaving for Westeros by the end. Ever since the possibility/certainty of 8 seasons has been announced, I can’t help but feel the same about this season – if Jaime is still in KL and Dany somewhere in Central Essos by E6, and Arya is only ‘heading’ to the Riverlands by the end of the season, then, uh, it’s starting to feel to me like S6 may be another slow season. Not in the sense of there being action or not – I’m sure there’ll be plenty – but in the sense of plot progression. Dany stuck in a sidequest and whatnot.

      I hope I’m wrong.

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    60. Sue the Fury,

      I think that’s Dany.

      Yeah upon closer look I think it’s Dany. Oops.

      Anytime I see a slight blonde on set I get excited and think it may be YG. Lol. I’m happy to see Dany embracing the clothing style of the Dothraki again. Can’t wait to see all the costumes.

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    61. Hodor’s Bastard

      I agree, maybe Tyrion will set them free…here’s a theory nobody wants to do it for fear of being burned, so Tyrion goes in and R&V are mysteriously pacified for an instant at him (hint hint) he does the deed and off they go FREE AT LAST!!
      Meanwhile Tyrion thinks to himself “Gee that wasn’t so bad, maybe reading all those Dragon books helped me out after all” ?

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    62. Boojam,

      Wow. Not exactly (at all) unexpected, but that’s Dany leading the Dothraki, right there!

      No TWOW spoilers, huh? Okay.

      So, they’re using the greenest parts of the Bardenas natural park. Definitely the Dothraki Sea, then. It looks great. Some tall plants, plenty of weird-looking mountains. And lots of Dothraki.

      M,

      Meh, a tad late for my liking. But if it truly is Bender in these scenes and she already has the Dothraki, I’m fine with it. As long as she hurries up!

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    63. The scene of meeting Dothraki in the book is quite different than in the show. Danny is eating burned horse with Drogon along. She is not alone but with the dragon. So it is right to say, that dragon should appear very soon in the show also. That means, that from the very begenning Danny will not be prisoner of Dothraki, but strong leader with the dragon.

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    64. Last season they showed us that the Harpies are willing to fight a dragon, I think it is also safe to assume a big battle will happen in Meereen. So I think a good adaption would be to use the battle confusion to just send a group of Harpies to try and kill the dragons. They are locked up and at their most vulnerable – but, they have been there a while now and we must assume they are growing and getting stronger too. I think once the dragons are attacked they will fight back and the chains will no longer be strong enough to bind them and then they wreak havoc as they free themselves from their prison

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    65. Has somnebody thought that Drogon might die?

      I mean, he was injured and wouldn’t eat… Just a thought…

      and regarding Jorah and his Greysale, I bet he’ll have his chance with Dany (sex having chance) but then he won’t touch her ’cause of the Greyscale…

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    66. ElEisandFire:
      Has somnebody thought that Drogon might die?

      I mean, he was injured and wouldn’t eat… Just a thought…

      Drogon is not going to die so early. Dany and Drogon will be like Aegon I and Balerion.

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    67. BTW I don’t think Dany will have it so easy with the Dothraki as people have been saying. Maybe they’ll force her to join the Crones and maybe punish her somehow for not doing it in the first place when Drogo died…

      viki,

      I think the big scene crew and producers have been saying is going to be there in S6 will be something Dragon-related, something like you described…

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    68. ElEisandFire:
      Has somnebody thought that Drogon might die?

      I mean, he was injured and wouldn’t eat… Just a thought…

      I think he was just in a food coma or something. In the books he rejected to fly with her back to Meereen because he was disgusted by the city – as she found herself by the end of the book. It was probably just easier for them to make what they did in the show because it would look better on screen than a Dragon having these kind of emotions. Emilia gave an interview a couple weeks ago saying Drogon was actually lazy that’s why he would no fly with Dany when she asked.

      http://youtu.be/98aKXhGShpg

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    69. And Dany acquires yet another army…because dragons obviously.

      And Daario finds her…because ring was dropped in the middle of vast nowhere obviously.

      Now she’ll get those rape and pillage-happy Dothraki to Westeros and everyone will live happily ever after.

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    70. Sunfyre:
      Chad Brick,

      I always find this objection strange.When Dany dropped her ring she was within walking distance of Drogon’s nest/perch.If Jorah and Daario track Drogon to there they’ll see abundant evidence of the khalasar.And then the ring in the middle of the circular horse tracks confirms what happened.Then they simply follow the khalasar.

      But the first step is tracking Drogon.Dragons are big and they leave an impression on witnesses.

      It might be a tad farfetched but aren’t most television shows when it comes to tracking?Suspension of disbelief.

      I think the same. Jorah is familiar with the Dothraki, he probably knows their usual routes and who’s territory is where. If they ask around for rumors they’ll probably hear about the dragon or that someone has Dany. They can follow around different tracks until they find the encircled area and in the middle…

      I guess tracking the dragon, however, is far more complicated. He flies = no tracks 😐 I’d stick to the hordes, check their routes, ask around. And take some educated guesses about the terrain.

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    71. ElEisandFire: BTW I don’t think Dany will have it so easy with the Dothraki as people have been saying. Maybe they’ll force her to join the Crones and maybe punish her somehow for not doing it in the first place when Drogo died…

      I would bet that is exactly what will happen, but Daenerys will persevere and they will bow to her. Remember the prophecy at the House of the Undying:

      “Beneath the Mother of Mountains, a line of naked crones crept from a great lake and knelt shivering before her, gray heads bowed.”

      At least in the books (and considering they’re building that Dothraki temple in Almería, I’d say in the show as well), the Dothraki will try to turn Dany into one of the Dosh khaleen, as she is the widow of a Khal, but she will bend them to her will, somehow —and the “how” probably involves a certain angsty dragon.

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    72. Undead Ice Kraken,

      They kind of set that up back in season 1 when jorah says they are easy to find because they travel in a large group.. The question is how do they know she is with dothraki. I’m hoping that they don’t just find the ring she dropped. If anything someone picked it up and sold it and they will see someone selling it or wearing it at a market

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    73. SlayerNina,

      No, it isn’t. It’s been repetedly confirmed as a fake. It’s fan fiction mixed with things we know from filming. The guy who wrote it didn’t do a good job, either, because there are a number of things wrong (e.g. Robert won’t be in that flashback; it will be a young Ned, Benjen, Lyanna, and Hodor).

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    74. Shane Snow,

      I’m always confused by the idea that they shouldn’t be able to find Dany’s ring. It’s not like Dany threw the ring in the middle of nowhere! What you’re saying is that two professional trackers will be unable to spot that an enormous horde of hundreds of thosands of Dothraki rode around a very specific point, creating a circle in the ground? You’re saying they won’t notice the severely disturbed soil that about a million trotting hoofs would cause, or that they won’t notice that this circle-patterned scar on the ground points to a location right in the middle, where Dany’s threw her ring? Even I would be able to find the ring under those cirumstances; Daario and Jorah are experienced badasses, so I don’t see the problem here.

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    75. Luka Nieto,

      And the first version of that ‘leak’, originally posted on IMDb, had no Dorne in it. The author claimed there’s no Dorne storyline in s6. He/she added it after people had pointed it out. Also ‘Mel burns Olly’ bit was taken from the already disproven summaries of the first 2 eps that were circulating a few weeks ago.

      There were similar false ‘leaks’ for season 5. The next season will have even more before it starts. I still remember the very detailed and fake leaks of the last eps of Breaking Bad. Nothing that comes from imdb message boards or 4chan should be taken seriously.

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    76. Redstar,

      What I always find particularly hilarious is that these leaks (Season 4, Season 5 and now Season 6) always include ridiculously obvious hints to Lady Stoneheart, or outright reveal her. They are always wrong.

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    77. Not that it’s relevant to this item but I just had an email saying the Season 5 boxset will be released on 14th March. So a bit later than Season 4’s boxset.

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    78. Yaga: I hope I’m wrong.

      According to GRRM, yes, yes you are.

      Chad Brick: So you are admitting that Book-Stannis is more ethical and competent than Book-Dany?

      Karolyne: In the books he rejected to fly with her back to Meereen because he was disgusted by the city

      There is no indication that this was why Drogon didn’t take her back. Drogon simply had Drogon things to do.

      Chad Brick: So you are admitting that Book-Stannis is more ethical and competent than Book-Dany?

      That’s a silly claim. Book!Stannis (like Show!Stanis) is/was moral absolutist, and moral absolutists never worry about ethics.

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    79. Hodor’s Bastard: But in the show, the dragons are fed humans by Dany….after they are chained for fear of eating another human!!

      Well, that’s strictly true, but also misleading. Daeny chained them up to prevent them from killing innocent bystanders. It has always been her intent to use them to kill her enemies. Using them to kill one enemy in hopes of frightening other enemies into behaving seems a very Daeny thing to do. (As it turns out, Daario might have been right: she probably should have fed them all to her dragons; but Daeny will always err on the side of ethical rather than tactical.)

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    80. SlayerNina,

      Someone should tell the author of that lame fanfiction to watch GOT’s season 1 because Qotho (not Quotho like the author has it) died in it.

      Also what’s Viscerion? Haha what a lousy attempt at trolling.

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    81. I find that reference to the Artillery Park interesting, especially since HBO is keeping it under a tight lid. The image screams Dorne, but why the secrecy?
      If the scene appears in the first couple of episodes, perhaps it involves a certain Lord Commander, his sidekick and a pissed off prince catching up to some naughty ladies.

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    82. Hodor’s Bastard:
      The whole “dragon chaining” thing in book and show was wrong, imo. R&V took the fall for Drogon’s actions and it seemed like GRRM didn’t know what to do with them in ADwD, other than make them angrier. Dany should have been training them as battle support & enforcement instead of fawning over Daario.

      Yes, chaining the dragons up in a cramped dark dungeon and just leaving them there was horribly cruel, and it removed any sympathy I had for Daenerys. She could have had an open air dragon pit created, which would have been a much kinder solution to the difficulty.
      I hope she comes to a Bad End.

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    83. Wild guess at Artillery Park.

      Varys and Doran meet for a chat. They need Dany’s armies to take control of Westeros, surely (perhaps want to marry Dany to Trystane). Maybe Doran approved the poisoning of Myrcella, even.

      I think their endgame, though, is to put the elder Targaryen bastard into power. Varys has been grooming Tyrion this the entire time, knowing he’s not ready (fkn Shae, all that trouble, wine) and other houses have to fall, first. The language is so tricky in their scenes together and I appreciate it more through this lens (standout several convos leading up to Blackwater). Shit, Oberyn probably knew it too.

      The great Dornish revenge on Tywin and Cersei is to help install the one they rejected and hate. Doran visited C-Rock just after Tyrion was born and Joanna died… rumors of him being born with a tail spawned from the rumors about Aerys and Joanna, I imagine (fresh rumors when Martells were there).

      Varys and Doran, Artillery Park.

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    84. Sunfyre:
      Chad Brick,

      If Jorah and Daario track Drogon to there they’ll see abundant evidence of the khalasar. And then the ring in the middle of the circular horse tracks confirms what happened.

      I’m trying not to laugh at the whole discussion (because really? where else would we discuss horde tracks and how logically to track a lost ring into wilderness BUT in Game of Thrones…) but explain to me how would the circle of Dothraki horses would go around the middle, to ride in whichever direction without trampling the said middle where Dany and the ring are?

      I mean think of the circle… unless they unwind EXACTLY as they winded into it, there is no other way but for one half of the circle to cross OVER the middle to go in the other direction. Which means that Chad is correct and the ring would be completely trampled in mud. Do you think it would be logical for the Dothraki to make sure they don’t trample the middle and unwind carefully around for that? I suppose anything is possible…

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    85. Thank you reader Delano for all the pics! The wheel is interesting. I cannot yet form a proper idea of what it could be used for. Raising the gates? Water wheel?

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    86. Simeon,

      The problem with suspension of disbelief is that it has been used for so many things to justify every incongruence in storytelling that at one point you really have to draw a line. It depends on each one where he/she wants to draw it.

      Frankly, as long as you first don’t try to logically point out that there is a circle of tracks that go around the middle to prove your point, I’m all good!

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    87. Wimsey: Using them to kill one enemy in hopes of frightening other enemies into behaving seems a very Daeny thing to do.

      Sure…intimidating the Meereen masters via feeding her chained mythical monsters was fun (I liked the VFX in that scene) but the big picture for Dany (in book and show) should have included using all her dragons on sorties, flyovers, and attacks…preparing them for Westeros!! I don’t believe chaining them and isolating them like zoo animals was part of her invasion plan. Why isn’t she reading something like TWoI&F (like Shireen) to learn about Aegon’s conquest and training tactics? 🙂 Using her dragons more intimidatingly as active air enforcers would be much more effective than staged dining events and would prep them for what’s to come, right? Dracarys!!!

      [You can probably tell that I’ve harped on this a fair amount over the years]

      A few friendly casualties during training would be expected…the population needs to learn to live with gods and monsters in their midst. In the books, R&V are so chaotic, unstable and unusable at this time. As others speculate, they may actually adversely effect Dany’s plans in the long run. I am highly interested in how they come back in line (if ever). But with no horns please.

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    88. TormundsWoman,

      There has not been a movie/show that has not done tracking in the ”hollywood” way, LOTR, when they find the Hobbits things, in a pile of corpses,..etc.etc.

      This is simply something that can’t be done realistically, as you need to move the plot somehow, so you just think that they are experient trackers.
      This doesn’t bother me at all tough.
      I’m noy going to ask how the circle is intact, if there is a circle at all after all this is just guessing, they could go a very different aproach, but they will see the circle, wich will answer how Daario/Jorah found the ring.

      And they could easly do just what Sunfyre said, no one is going to wonder why there is a circle, but they will see the circle, and think thats how Daario/Jorah found the ring.

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    89. TormundsWoman,

      But why does it bother you? They found the ring. It’s not a plot-hole, it’s not illogical. Is it unlikely, yeah kinda, but this is a fantasy show, there are dragons in it, ice zombies, so the last question I would ask is why is there still a circle in the grass.

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    90. Well, having a dog the size of a tiny dragon I have no problem with D&J finding Dany rather quickly. Just follow the droppings. XD

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    91. Marcus,

      People liking Stannis is a direct consequence of ADWD, where Dany is placed in one of the most hated/boring storyline ever, while Stannis starts saying jokes/quips!

      Don’t worry Dany won’t die, and neither will Stannis survive.

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    92. Marcus,

      what worse for that kind of “fans” that Stannis died by a womans hand and the no1 most important character is a woman with 3 Dragons. Castration anxiety all the way…

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    93. Gayle: As long as h doesn’t get the full-Quentyn, I’m all for this.

      For some reason I think he will get the Quentyn treatment but with a Jon Snow ending: he will get engulfed in flames but will survive. This will be Tyrions dragon puberty change. I AM of the belief that there is a very good chance he is the illegitimate child of Aerys T. I think Tyrion will ride Rhaegel, the green dragon since he has the one green eye.

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    94. Dutch Maester,
      Jaime’s girl,

      I won’t worry unless we don’t see Jorah on other photos of the Navarre filming or if we also don’t see him in the Vaes Dothrak set in Almería. And no, I can’t spot the director. Bender is easy to spot, and I can’t see him there. So it’s probably not episodes 5 or 6.

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    95. Hodor’s Bastard: I don’t believe chaining them and isolating them like zoo animals was part of her invasion plan. Why isn’t she reading something like TWoI&F (like Shireen) to learn about Aegon’s conquest and training tactics?

      Is there any reason to think anything about How To Train Your Dragon in that book? After all, histories of wars tell you what people did with tanks and cannons: they do not tell you how people built them or learned to operate them. (If the Dance of Dragons is like GRRM’s short story in “Dangerous Women, then it would not tell her what she needed to know.)

      The sort of books that Daeny really needs probably are nowhere to be found where she is. If I recall, then in the books she has some very general knowledge of how Valyrians of old trained dragons: but she had no knowledge of how those things were done. It’s sort of like telling someone to use a computer to solve a problem when they have only the most superficial of ideas what a computer is and no access to one!

      That written, I am curious to see how Viserion and Rhaegal will come back into the fold. If dragons are anything like cats (and they seem to be a lot like cats), then they will be temporarily pissed at her for punishing them like that. They then will forgive her and want their ears scratched: until there have been one too many scratches or they see some invisible speck fly by!

      I do think it possible that Tyrion will somehow bond with one. I’ve never bought the “Tyrion is Aerys’ lust child!” idea – Tyrions non-Lannister features are even more non-Targaryen – but given that he probably has read as much of How to Train Your Dragon as anyone alive (and considerably more than Daeny ever has!), he might have some ideas that prove useful. Of course, what probably will happen is that Tyrion’s knowledge will be partially correct – for comparison, the “learned” idea of how one gets Grayscale that Tyrion knows is that “humors” in damp places cause it, not superstitions about curses! – and things will not quite turn out as the books would have it.

      Regardless, blaming Daeny for not doing things when she has absolutely no idea how to even go about trying to do those things is a bit unfair! I suppose GRRM could have wasted words having her fret about it: but GRRM has enough of a words:information ratio problem as it is.

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    96. Luka Nieto,

      Ok well I know it’s a tv show .. It’s just they have no idea where she went and say they have no idea about her dropping a ring .. We know it’s there.. They don’t.. They aren’t looking for a ring

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    97. Luka Nieto,

      AWESOME PICS!!! Thank you Knight of the Laughing Tree 🙂 and Luka for posting the link.

      Random thought: We still don’t know if that structure we saw a while back is a Dothraki big tent. Wonder if we’ll get to sneak a peek at the completed work before the season airs.

      Mihnea,

      HAH! And the award for the right answer goes to Mihnea! Ten cookies for it. It’s a magic fantasy show so logic cannot be always employed.

      Honestly, the ring being found doesn’t bother me at all. Is the use of logic then dismissal of it based on “suspension of disbelief” when the logic argument is proven wrong that is a generic problem. (Not really a bother because I’d have to lose some sleep over it in order for me to consider it a bother.)

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    98. Shane Snow:
      Luka Nieto,

      Ok well I know it’s a tv show .. It’s just they have no idea where she went and say they have no idea about her dropping a ring .. We know it’s there.. They don’t.. They aren’t looking for a ring

      No, but if they see evidence that a Dothtraki horde has surrounded someone, they will go to where the hoofprints point that person was, and they will find the ring. As for “where she went”, dragons need to eat and rest, and in 5×10 we saw the result of that; a stinking, steaming pile of burnt carcasses and grass. Not exactly subtle.

      Honestly, trackers in the real world do things that are even more amazing. I don’t see how this is so implausible.

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    99. Just wondering if this was mentioned before. But I heard people say that Jack Bender directed the Kingsmoot because he posted a picture of himself at Ballintoy, so it was sort of assumed. But Daniel Sackheim was also at Ballintoy for Game of Thrones on September 12th (posted a picture of the crew). That could actually mean that the Kingsmoot is earlier in the season than Episode 5 or 6, and could be in as early as Episode 3 or 4. Or is this incredibly dated info?

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    100. Ser Oromis Locke,

      I don’t think Jack Bender was specifically seen in the Kingsmoot filming. Just the tweet, as you suggest. Unless I’m missing something.

      So you may be right; the Kingsmoot could take place in episodes 3 or 4! It would make more sense to me, honestly.

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    101. I’m sure Jorah and Daario are going to find the ring. It’s illogical and hollywood to find it, but I reckon they will.

      And “good trackers” is no good reason for them to find the ring.

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    102. It’s a magic ring, it sang to Daario, drawing him to its resting place because Dany’s love for him seeped into it. They found it and it showed them the way like a compass or gps. An invisible string connected Dany to the ring, that’s how it knew.

      On a barely related note, it’s interesing how so far the only major sets that have avoided photo/video spoilers are the Castle Black/Winterfell/Saintfield ones.

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    103. Redstar,

      Castle Black and Winterfell are business as usual. They are enclosed locations. No chance of getting anything. Saintfield is a mystery, though. Their security must be fierce!

      jentario,

      Not necessarily what? Theon what? I don’t follow, sorry.

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    104. Roose is Azor Ahai,

      Oh, come on. Is the ring even that important? They are going to follow people pointing out a HUGE dragon, and then come across the trace of a HUGE mounted army IN THE DOTHRAKI SEA. Jorah surely remembers Dany’s history with the Dothraki, and Drogon’s nest/bed/landing pad nearby will tell them that Drogon was landed at around that spot at some point – a good tracker could probably realistically tell that at around the same time as the army. The ring would be just the cherry on top.

      People have been asking the correct question, though. Where is Jorah?

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    105. TormundsWoman: Honestly, the ring being found doesn’t bother me at all. Is the use of logic then dismissal of it based on “suspension of disbelief” when the logic argument is proven wrong that is a generic problem.

      There really isn’t an issue involving logic here. Finding the ring is neither logical nor illogical: it’s improbable. These are two completely different things. The only logic is: if Daeny drops the Ring, then there is some small chance that someone will find it. If that someone who finds it happens to be looking for Daeny and thus knows that she had a ring like that, then they will know that she was there. Conversely, if she does not drop the ring, then this cannot happen: and cannot is infinitely less probable that improbable.

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    106. Wimsey,

      There really IS an issue, though maybe not for you. You missed the whole conversation re: the circle of tracks and how it stays intact for Jorah and Daario to (accidentally is you suggest, and at the same time by good tracking skills) find the ring because it sits in a pristine condition. It also involved in the same comment with the circle-remains-exactly-so argument that that if nothing else works, it really is an issue with why can’t we all suspend disbelief, after all it is fantasy. So you see why one might take issue with that particular comment. As far as I’m concerned one either uses logic or suspend disbelief. Can you really use both in the same breath?

      Chiming in at the end makes your comment look very reasonable. Excellent grasp of improbable vs impossible, Kudos for that.

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    107. TormundsWoman,

      There’s also the close proximity of Drogon’s nest of charred bones and earth to the khalasar’s tracks. So it isn’t only about the needle in the haystack – Dany’s ring. It is all three clues. Circular horse tracks, the ring and Drogon’s nest all near each other. I wasn’t arguing that it is purely a matter of logic. Only that there is an explanation for how they could track Dany. Obviously you don’t find this explanation plausible. That’s cool. I’m able to suspend disbelief enough to where I don’t see a massive problem.

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    108. Ring-gate is a complete joke! XD

      I grew up on a hobby farm with around 10 acres. People would often cut through our back field to get to the road or to a wooded area to hang out/ party. More than once I would see the sun reflect off of metal bottle caps and the like from a good distance away and I was never even looking for it.

      If they are not too far behind Dany tracking her they will easily come to the Drogon kill or the Khalasar tracks where they circled Dany. Finding a metal and jeweled ring in that situation is not an unbelievable feat to me – Not even an unlikely feat honestly.

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    109. TormundsWoman: You missed the whole conversation re: the circle of tracks and how it stays intact for Jorah and Daario to (accidentally is you suggest, and at the same time by good tracking skills) find the ring because it sits in a pristine condition.

      Why would the circle go away? A huge herd of horses would cause immense damage to the turf for quite some time.

      TormundsWoman: As far as I’m concerned one either uses logic or suspend disbelief.

      I guess I do not see what “If X then Y” principle this violates. If it violates no such principle, then I do not see how there is a logical problem. It is improbable, yes: but that is a completely different issue.

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    110. Luka Nieto:
      Redstar,

      Castle Black and Winterfell are business as usual. They are enclosed locations. No chance of getting anything. Saintfield is a mystery, though. Their security must be fierce!

      jentario,

      I was up close at the WF set (even walking around it) a few weeks back and the set looks like it’s finished for good. They’d started dismantling it and it’s starting to get really damaged by exposure to the elements.

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    111. Wimsey,

      Wimsey, I had to go back and see where your confusion arises from: You took my “generic problem” comment (when logic cannot explain incongruences in the story one fallis back on the “suspend the disbelief” explanation that I have encountered many times) and applied it to the finding of the ring comment which was right before that.

      THIS was what I said regarding the ring, the circle and the chances of the circle being left pristine:

      TormundsWoman:

      I mean think of the circle… unless they unwind EXACTLY as they winded into it, there is no other way but for one half of the circle to cross OVER the middle to go in the other direction. Which means that Chad is correct and the ring would be completely trampled in mud. Do you think it would be logical for the Dothraki to make sure they don’t trample the middle and unwind carefully around for that? I suppose anything is possible…

      In this particular case, logical had the meaning of reasonable. Would they reasonably make sure they don’t trample the middle of the circle. And anything is possible was me stating that it is highly improbable (and when I say highly improbable I really mean “finding the needle in the haystack” improbable) Not that far away from your conclusion actually. The discussion that sparked the controversy was that all the arguments were invalidated because we should just suspend disbelief at this point.

      I choose to simply suspend disbelief completely and not even look for reasonable arguments on how it is likely that Daario and Jorah find that damn ring!

      I hope that clears up a bit the discussion.

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