Directors for Season 6 Game of Thrones Revealed

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An article just released from Entertainment Weekly has revealed the director names for Season 6 and the episodes they will oversee.

Jack Bender of Lost fame leaked earlier this week and joins one other new name along with three returning starters.

Check out the list below the cut…

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Episodes 1 and 2 – Jeremy Podeswa: Director for Season 5’s “Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken” and “Kill the Boy.”

Episodes 3 and 4 – Daniel Sackheim: The other newbie, Sackheim’s experience dates all the way back to Miami Vice along with his other notable work fromThe X-Files, Lie to Me, House and The Americans. 

Episodes 5 and 6 -Jack Bender: According to the EW article, Bender directed an impressive 38 episodes of Lost as well as episodes of The Last Ship and Alcatraz to his credit.

Episodes 7 and 8Mark Mylod: Director for Season 5’s “High Sparrow” and “Sons of the Harpy.”

Episodes 9 and 10 -Miguel Sapochnik: If you watched “Hardhome,” you likely already know about this guy. He also directed “The Gift” from Season 5.

Oz- There you have it. Ecstatic to see Sapochnik at the helm of 9 & 10 and also interested to see what Bender and Sackheim can bring to the council. Discuss, compare and contrast as you will.

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    1. I’m looking forward to Episode 9 and 10 already. I’ll assume a big battle sequence is in the works. I wonder what it could be? Ironborn hitting Oldtown perhaps?

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    2. Yay! Miguel Sapochnik for episodes 9 &10… Well deserved and earned, the guy was by far the best director last season… “Hardhome” was a masterpiece, and “The Gift” was pretty damn good too.

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    3. Al Swearengen,

      Another season without Neil Marshall

      Unfortunately 🙁
      and he is available too, nothing in the works. I’d like to ask D&D why hasn’t he been offered more episodes, after all, his two are considered among the five best, by just about everyone.

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    4. GeekFurious,

      Please, let’s try to -not- turn this thread into a gender discussion.

      After ‘Hardhome’, I’m not surprised to see Sapochnik being given Eps. 9 and 10.
      Sad about no Alex Graves, though.

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    5. Sapochnik and Mhal are pretty equal in quality. Jack Bender should also be a great addition.

      Disappointed that Mark Mylod is back. He was not that great.

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    6. Omg at those images. I didn’t even realize Jaqen changed into the waif until somebody mentioned it here after the episode. So, is the waif dead?

      The Host was my fave X-Files episode. Daniel Sackheim seems to do a lot of fantasy horror? I’m more concerned about the DOPs. Whoever made last season darker than a shadow baby should be fired.

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    7. Pigeon:
      Yay Sapochnik!

      Yay no Alex Graves!

      Took me a minute to notice that. I wonder if privately they heap all the blame for Breaker of Chains on his shoddy camerawork; but frankly it’s their own fault for not noticing it, and astronomically more their fault for…thinking they could just avoid the question for over a year.

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    8. Morgoth:
      GeekFurious,

      Please, let’s try to -not- turn this thread into a gender discussion.

      After ‘Hardhome’, I’m not surprised to see Sapochnik being given Eps. 9 and 10.
      Sad about no Alex Graves, though.

      I’m not turning it into anything. I believe my issue with no female directors on the most popular TV show on the planet is legitimate.

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    9. More like another season without any women behind the camera- or in the writers’ room, for that matter. Not to go full SJW here, but this is getting kind of ridiculous. It MIGHT help to have something other than a male perspective on things, D&D (and I say that as a man myself).

      Other than that, I’m glad to see Bender and Sackheim in the fold. Both are solid veterans with plenty of experience in the world of genre television. The same goes for Sapochnik getting the last two episodes. I had my doubts about him coming in to last season given his prior resume, but he completely eliminated them with “Hardhome” (this may be controversial here, but that was a better battle scene than anything Neil Marshall ever shot). I know Podeswa took a lot of grief for Sansagate, but that largely wasn’t his fault, and his past work indicates that he’s a more-than-capable hand (the Sand Snake fight scene notwithstanding). Mylod is kind of “meh” to me, nothing more, nothing less.

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    10. Morgoth,

      Considering the problems many people have with the show’s portrayal of gender-based issues, critiquing the lack of female directors is absolutely valid and relevant.

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    11. A female director &/or a female writer would go a long way to assuaging the issues some many people have with the GoT.

      I know the turn around between seasons is quick but it’s worrisome how D&D seam not to respond whatsoever to criticisms of the show, just barreling along in their own way. HUBRIS is has a negative effect on quality 🙁

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    12. Redwoods,

      Perhaps. But if you were to put up a mildly dissenting view on a site like the Mary Sue you’d find your opinion pretty instantly downvoted and your post deleted. That’s not how it works here, thankfully, but there have been an interminable number of threads ruined by people wanting to discuss gender politics when that’s been a subject peripherally at best connected with the subject of the post. Not everyone has sexual politics as their hot button, yet GoT seems to have become a magnet for it. Odd, when many of its most controversial scenes have been mild in contrast to the equivalent ones in the books (and certainly much milder than those in the last few episodes of Outlander Season 1).

      Anyway, having said the above, the choice of directors above look great to me. I wonder if they were chosen because of their talent, their appropriateness to the type of action taking place in the episodes, or merely because they have dicks? I suspect the first two reasons, personally.

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    13. Look….what if maybe, just maybe, they happened to simply pick who they thought was best for the season, regardless of whether they dangle or they don’t? *mind blown* I’d rather that than trying to appease the masses with someone who didn’t quite fit with what they envisioned. There are so many great men and women involved with GoT – stop keeping track.

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    14. I’m very happy with the directors for next season, but I agree with others about a serious lack of women directing/writing and I say that as a man. People can call me a SJW or some other snarky, dismissive term but I don’t give a shit. One of the main problems that have plagued GOT (and many, many, many other TV shows and movies) for years is how women and minorities are portrayed from a white, male perspective. Those who really don’t see why this is a continuing problem are only showing their true colors.

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    15. GeekFurious,

      They shouldn’t be hiring a female director just to hire a female director. They should hire whoever they think is the best choice based off the directors who are interested and available. It’s stupid when internet users try to cause controversy like this. The internet is a great forum for all those who love to b*tch and complain about any little thing they can.
      Why don’t you complain that there’s a lack of Asian and black directors too while you’re at it?
      All the complaining about what the show does to women is BS and done by ignorantly blind people. This show has the most power and diverse female characters on any television show and even more so than most movies. There are all sorts of juicy diverse roles for female actors here, including but not limited to: Brienne, Margaery, Arya, Cersei, Catelyn, Queen of Thorns, Melissandra, Ellaria and Danaerys. Some people don’t understand the world that this show is portraying and instead live in some fantasy LALA land where they forget that this world is similar to our own history where women were treated like shit. If this were any other TV show, the women characters would mainly just be wives, sisters, and girlfriends. But, alas, this is Game of Thrones and we get female diverse 3 dimensional characters who are constantly moving the plot forward.
      Also, every female I know who has watched the show (lots and lots of them I know) love the show and it’s powerful female characters. The guys who complain about the female characters have no idea what the DUCK they are talking about and sound incredibly ignorant.

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    16. Rygritte: I didn’t even realize Jaqen changed into the waif until somebody mentioned it here after the episode. So, is the waif dead?

      I don’t think that’s how it works, at least in the show. As I understand it, ‘The waif’ is just a persona, like ‘Jaqen’, that any of the faceless men can wear as a glamour and switch between at any time. The waif isn’t ‘dead’, or rather, whoever she was originally probably died a long time ago, as did the original Jaqen. But their likenesses live on. Both of their faces are probably on the walls somewhere as the original template.
      What we saw was a faceless man dressed in black switching from wearing ‘the waif” glamour to wearing the ‘Jaqen’ glamour as they spoke to Arya.

      The person who just drank poison to pay for Arya’s unapproved kill could have been any of the faceless men. It could have been the faceless man that answered the door to the House of Black and White. It could have been the faceless man who was washing bodies with Arya. It could have been the faceless man Arya met at Harrenhal. It could have been some other faceless man Arya has never met.

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    17. What is it with people trying to police the conversation? Bringing up sexism, or any other political issue in no way violates the comment policy.

      Nobody is trying to make something political. The fact that opportunities in many aspects of society are given more frequently to white men than anyone else is political. Taking up for the status quo and trying to silence dissent is in and of itself just as agenda driven as discussing the issue.

      As other people said, there have been issues with the show and it’s portrayal of rape and the nudity parity problem. More female voices might help with that. Just having a lot of female characters isn’t sufficient.

      To those who protest “they just pick the best one for the job!” when someone speaks out about discriminatory hiring practices, you do realize you’re pretty much saying white men are inherently superior, right? Think about whether that’s what you truly believe. If you don’t believe that, you must agree that women and people of color are routinely passed over. Why would you want that to keep happening?

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    18. Robb Snow:
      I’m looking forward to Episode 9 and 10 already. I’ll assume a big battle sequence is in the works. I wonder what it could be? Ironborn hitting Oldtown perhaps?

      The Wall falls, overrun by WW as Dany lands in Westeros.

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    19. Euron! Euron! Urine King!,

      They should NOT care what the Internet says. People usually don’t know what they want. Best if they just do what they think is right creatively rather than kowtow and bend to the popular opinion of the moment.

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    20. Pigeon:
      Yay Sapochnik!

      Yay no Alex Graves!

      Alex Graves directed “And Now His Watch Is Ended” and “The Children”, two of the best episodes in the entire run.

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    21. goodkinghenry:
      Euron! Euron! Urine King!,

      They should NOT care what the Internet says. People usually don’t know what they want. Best if they just do what they think is right creatively rather than kowtow and bend to the popular opinion of the moment.

      What’s that saying in sports? “If a coach starts listening to the fans in the stands, he’ll be sitting with them pretty soon. ” Same with creativity.

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    22. Another season without a woman writer or director. That is not surprising, but still saddening. I guess we’ll have more the usual next season.

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    23. Deesensfan,

      It’s all the rage on the internet these days. Funny how people think adding a women writer or director would suddenly cure the show of all its supposed “problematic” elements the vocal minority on the internet are always whining about. Michelle Maclaren directed the Craster’s Keep rape scene and it was so graphic D&D had to edit it down. Vanessa Taylor also had the scene where Joffrey abuses those prostitutes in one of her episodes.

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    24. JamesL:
      Deesensfan,

      It’s all the rage on the internet these days. Funny how people think adding a women writer or director would suddenly cure the show of all its supposed “problematic” elements the vocal minority on the internet are always whining about. Michelle Maclaren directed the Craster’s Keep rape scene and it was so graphic D&D had to edit it down. Vanessa Taylor also had the scene where Joffrey abuses those prostitutes in one of her episodes.

      Enough with you and your facts!!!!

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    25. goodkinghenry,

      They should NOT care what the Internet says. People usually don’t know what they want. Best if they just do what they think is right creatively rather than kowtow and bend to the popular opinion of the moment.

      This. Don’t pander to the vocal minority just because they are loud, obnoxious, and very prevalent on the internet.

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    26. ash:
      The Dragon Demands,

      I remember the episode (esp for that scene) but don’t remember the camera problem.And what question are they avoiding? Could you explain pls?

      Basically if you freeze frame, you can tell that Lena Headey is kissing back and even grabbing Nikolaj’s head to lean in for a kiss, but the editing is so awful it looks like a rape scene – the actors now say in interviews that they were *never* told to film it as a rape scene, didn’t play it that way physically — the camerawork is just so awful that it unintentionally looks like it is rape. So why the heck didn’t they try to reedit it in post-production?

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    27. JamesL: Michelle Maclaren directed the Craster’s Keep rape scene and it was so graphic D&D had to edit it down. Vanessa Taylor also had the scene where Joffrey abuses those prostitutes in one of her episodes.

      It shouldn’t be surprising: many women directors would want to emphasize just how badly women are treated in societies such as the ones on which Westerosi societies are modeled. And, let’s face it: any women directors who would want to portray things in post-feminist or “turn the table” feminist styles probably wouldn’t be interested in doing Thrones. (That written, I cannot think of any such female directors: most of the ones with whom I am familiar tend to emphasize just how bad some [but not all] men are to women!)

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    28. Must we really discuss gender politics here? Is this not news worth at least some celebration? Seriously, stop bickering and instead revel in the exciting news about Miguel Sapochnik returning to do Episode 9 and the finale!

      Ravyn,

      I don’t know if the Wall is going to fall just yet, but I think the White Walker assault will definitely start by the end of the season at least.

      I think the Ironborn might be the subject of at least one great battle this season. We know from the books that

      Euron Greyjoy is planning to raid Oldtown

      , and both are confirmed to be in Season 6. I also think that

      Dany and her army will arrive just in time to deal with the Ironborn, which would earn her the favor of the Reach as was foreshadowed somewhat by Tyrion.

      It’s all likely going to be very large in scope, at least on par with Hardhome, and possibly even Episode 9 worthy. So it’s perfect for Miguel.

      Also, there’s this awesome foreshadowing by Tywin in Season 4:

      A House with great wealth and fertile lands asks you for your protection against another House with a strong navy that could one day oppose you.

      So I’m stoked. Or maybe I’m just extremely biased because I love the Ironborn so much. Either way, GET HYPE.

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    29. Robb Snow,

      The WW attack is, for me, the strongest evidence that the show isn’t done yet with Jon Snow. What other figure would engage the audience in a second round with the WW? Davos? Love him, but he’s not a leading character. Sam? Off to Oldtown. Stannis? Dead. Even if Theon, Sansa, and Brienne made it to the Wall, the first two aren’t fighting characters, and Brienne is a B character, and one not likely to be elevated to A status. So…unless the WW just massacres the Night’s Watch, then any kind of suspense or emotional engagement would seem to have to go through Jon Snow.

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    30. WeirwoodTreeHugger: What is it with people trying to police the conversation? Bringing up sexism, or any other political issue in no way violates the comment policy.

      It’s not that it is against some rule (hell, full-blown personal insults are tolerated here all the time), it’s that this topic is beyond old. For every rape that has occured in GoT, how many men were slaughtered? Fifty? A hundred? Since the last rape, couple thousand men died in E10, dozens were killed in E09, thousands died in E08 (so did a smaller but substantial number of women), etc. And on top of all that, the worst rape in GoT history happened to a man (Theon) not a woman!

      And I do find it funny how when Dany crucified 163 Wise Masters, they appeared to be all men. Additionally, in Astopor, she orders the unsullied to kill all the men with whips. Male genocide by one of our heroines gets a free pass, but not quite enough permission (by modern standards) for sex between two long-time lovers gets outrage? Seriously?

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    31. Chad Brick,

      It’s symptomatic of being the biggest show on TV. True Detective (especially in season 1) is a 100x more sexist than GoT, and Outlander is more explicit in its portrayal of rape, but those titles aren’t the same level of click bait GoT is.

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    32. There are several women who have a voice in this show.
      Production designers Deborah Riley and Gemma Jackson have a huge voice in it, costume designers Michelle Clapton and April Ferry do too, and there’s director of photography Anette Haellmigk, 2 art directors, a set decorator, several prosthetic/makeup/hair stylists, and several producers. Michelle McLaren directed several episodes, and there have been two women to write for the show briefly.
      Game of Thrones wouldn’t be Game of Thrones without the production and costume designers fantastic sets and costumes.

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    33. Producer Carolyn Strauss plays a huge role in making this show as well. There’s fantastic women actresses breathing life into their characters, stunt women and women who do special effects. They all bring something to this show

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    34. Sackheim???? Cool. Who’s next Rob Bowman? Chris Carter? Vince Gilligan? Michelle McClaren…oh wait.

      A pity Kim Manners passed away.

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    35. FormerlyTheMannis,

      Graves was kicked under the bus after his contradictory statements following Rapegate last year.

      Don’t mess with SJW’s man. Even the great feminist Joss Whedon fell under their axe. Re: One line of dialogue from Black Widow in Avengers: Age of Ultron.

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    36. Ravyn,

      True Detective (especially in season 1) is a 100x more sexist than GoT,

      True Detective wasn’t sexist but as I said in my previous commet this gender studies analysis of entertainment is all the rage today. Even just 5 years ago there would have been very little discussion of the suppose sexism of True Detective. It is very telling what a hive community critics are by the fact that the show aired for about 5 or 6 episodes and there was no talk about sexism but then the New Yorker had an article bashing the show and calling it sexist and just like that all the talk was about supposed sexism in True Detective and it has stuck ever since.

      The show was certainly male driven and focused on the 2 male leads but that does not make it sexist. Was the Sopranos sexist? Goodfellas(or hell, half of Scorsese’s filmography) sexist? Is any story that happens to be more masculine driven “misogynistic” or “sexist”? Image all the great films or shows that should also be condemned for “misogyny” using the logic used to criticize True Detective.

      Conservative Christian moral crusaders are bad enough as it is and now we have the rise of the progressive moral crusaders out to condemn any art that doesn’t fit their world view.

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    37. WeirwoodTreeHugger:

      To those who protest “they just pick the best one for the job!” when someone speaks out about discriminatory hiring practices, you do realize you’re pretty much saying white men are inherently superior, right?

      No. There are simply far fewer female directors working in television. This isn’t something specific to Game of Thrones – look at pretty much any other premium drama on television and check out what percentage of the directors are female. HBO and D&D don’t have some vendetta against female directors, there simply aren’t that many.

      The showrunners should not compromise quality for equal representation. Your efforts would be better directed at encouraging more young women to aspire to be directors.

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    38. JamesL:
      Ravyn,

      True Detective wasn’t sexist but as I said in my previous commet this gender studies analysis of entertainment is all the rage today. Even just 5 years ago there would have been very little discussion of the suppose sexism of True Detective. It is very telling what a hive community critics are by the fact that the show aired for about 5 or 6 episodes and there was no talk about sexism but then the New Yorker had an article bashing the show and calling it sexist and just like that all the talk was about supposed sexism in True Detective and it has stuck ever since.

      The show was certainly male driven and focused on the 2 male leads but that does not make it sexist. Was the Sopranos sexist? Goodfellas(or hell, half of Scorsese’s filmography) sexist? Is any story that happens to be more masculine driven “misogynistic” or “sexist”? Image all the great films or shows that should also be condemned for “misogyny” using the logic used to criticize True Detective.

      Conservative Christian moral crusaders are bad enough as it is and now we have the rise of the progressive moral crusaders out to condemn any art that doesn’t fit their world view.

      Well, for one, I didn’t see TD until a few months ago, so I missed all the discussion about sexism. I formed my own opinions, and, yes, its portrayal of women fell into two categories, sluts and frigid wives. Did it bother me? Not really. Guess what, I actually really liked TD’s first season. I found it to be pretty compelling television despite having huge flaws. I was just using that as an example of a show that pretty much gets a pass, or, at least, isn’t vivisected for it the way GoT is (a show where I feel the portrayal of women to be actually quite strong – there really aren’t any weak central female characters. Even a side one like Osha isn’t above slicing a guard’s throat to get her way.) I would address your points about Scorsese because I’m a huge fan but I’m too tired right now to get into it. Suffice it top say, he is known to have strong female characters, as anyone who’s seen his films can attest, women who can stand up to men like Betsy did in Taxi Driver, or the steely wife in Goodfellas, or the slightly deranged Masha in King of Comedy. His movies aren’t the flesh parades that Wolf of Wall Street was, where the bacchanal nature of those lead characters were the very core of the drama.

      Lastly, I just find this discussion about GoT’s perceived danger to the social fabric to be incredibly tiresome and, as I said, just a symptom of its popularity and how everyone is filtering their PC bullshit through it for click bait purposes. In that, maybe we agree.

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    39. Sam:
      Meh, I would’ve liked to see MacLaren, Nutter and Sakharov back as well. At least we got Sapochnik

      I think McLaren wants to move into features. After she flamed out on Wonder Woman, she’s being considered for one of the Star Wars spin off films.

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    40. WeirwoodTreeHugger:

      To those who protest “they just pick the best one for the job!” when someone speaks out about discriminatory hiring practices, you do realize you’re pretty much saying white men are inherently superior, right?Think about whether that’s what you truly believe. If you don’t believe that, you must agree that women and people of color are routinely passed over.Why would you want that to keep happening?

      No, actually, that’s about as far from what I’m saying as possible. What I mean when I say they pick who they believe is the best person for the job, is that they pick the best PERSON for the job. Simple as that.

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    41. I feel for those who are lamenting the lack of female writers and directors in one of the biggest TV shows on earth. Of course some of the more vocal male viewers will dismiss such opinions simply because they go against their view: that the status quo is okay. Never mind the lack of colored people in positions of power; that females behind the cameras are still a glaring minority in 2015 has to be justified somehow. The knee-jerk response is: merit and talent, not gender, are the primary considerations. But how are women supposed to prove their worth if they are not given the opportunity to do so? I would encourage female and male viewers who point out the obvious gender disparity to keep at it, despite the dismissing attitude, despite the put-downs and the sarcasm, the outright misogyny. We might not see a significant change in this show’s entire run, but I believe somehow, somewhere, some showrunners and siterunners are getting stung and might concede a little, give a little, change a little bit. That’s probably the most realistic that one might expect.

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    42. Because you did never experience discrimination or are not aware of any discrimination doesn’t mean there isn’t any discrimination.

      If you can’t come up with a female or poc or lgbt or disabled candidate for the task at hand, try harder. Maybe the candidate in the end is really not as good as the white cis male one, but at least you gave both an equal chance.

      /rant

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    43. I would wish for this website to step in when commenters are trying to censor discussion. Might make for a nicer communication and everyone could talk about whatever the hell they want in regards to the topic at hand. Like WeirwoodTreeHugger said, commentors dismissing others so openly creates nothing but bad blood.

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    44. The presumptuousness of some of you is frustrating to read. Does anyone here know how the hiring process for directors is handled? How many directors of either sex are honestly qualified to direct a show of this scope? How many of these directors were available for hire at the time? How many directors actually approached, or were approached by the showrunners to work on the show? How much money did they ask for, or were offered? How many directors declined to work on the show?

      This really is the biggest TV show in the world. There’s not much room for error. The show needs the right people to work on the show at the right times and for the right price. If the show doesn’t have female directors or writers in this season or that season, it’s probably for a reason, and that reason isn’t always (and honestly probably rarely is) discrimination. Some of you need to try and consider that before making such rash judgments.

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    45. Well this is exciting. Especially Sapochnik directing the finale. Disappointed that none of the old guard are back, though. I miss Alik Sakharov’s painterly cinematography, and Michelle MacLaren’s clever visual symbolism. By the way… another year with no female perspective in the writing room or the director’s chair. And, ever year, it shows

      Robb Snow,

      I really hope that we don’t have to wait until the end of Season 6 / TWOW for that kind of thing.

      Lucius,

      The Hobbit already looks like a cartoon.

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    46. Pigeon:
      Look….what if maybe, just maybe, they happened to simply pick who they thought was best for the season, regardless of whether they dangle or they don’t? *mind blown* I’d rather that than trying to appease the masses with someone who didn’t quite fit with what they envisioned. There are so many great men and women involved with GoT – stop keeping track.

      This. It happens that there aren’t many female directors that can pull off GOT. They may have been able to bring back Michelle MacLaren, but if these directors are better for what they have envisioned I really don’t care. And neither should any of you.

      I guess the complaint is more valid towards the writing team, but even there it’s not exactly warranted. David, Dan and Bryan have always been there and always will be. Dave Hill was an assistant who got offered one episode last season. Adding another writer would be unnecessary at this point. Too many cooks spoil the broth and all that.

      On paper, it would be nice to have more female minds behind the show. But the moment you start counting how many employees of each gender and race you have is the moment you really become racist. D&D should just be looking for the best person for the job.

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    47. Genius101,

      Wow that’s disgusting.

      How hasn’t this post been deleted?

      ash,

      His pet theory (I mean ABSOLUTE FACT) is that this wasn’t a scripting problem; that, despite D&D using the word “forced sex”, they didn’t intend to write anything so touchy, and that the script didn’t describe a rape (which is likely, considering how the actors thought about the scene); that it was all the fault of Graves’ ambiguous direction. The Dragon Demands wrote an interminable essay about it. It’s on the GoT Wiki. He’s nothing if not thorough; you’ll see what he means exactly. He’s not wrong —When it was pointed out that Cersei grabs Jaime willingly, we’d all be forgiven to reply “What? No she didn’t”, yet she does… but the camerawork does a poor work of showing it.

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    48. Yes, I’m happy the guy that directed Hardhome will be back for the last two episodes of the season. Party time!

      At thesame time, so many new names but none female pisses on that party. Weirwoodtreehugger and JaaqenIsFaceful said better what I wanted to say on that.

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    49. WeirwoodTreeHugger,

      Oh jeez, this post is bursting at the seems with illogical bating and straw men. First off, your last paragraph seems to be making the implication that not hiring any female directors is inherently caused by discriminatory practices and couldn’t possibly be caused by other, unrelated issues. So please, state your evidence that GoT is discriminatory in their selection process.

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    50. Luka Nieto,

      I feel like that would run best concurrently with a second battle at the Wall, or happen just before. Oldtown in Episode 8 and the Wall in Episode 9, and the fallout from both in the finale.

      Either way, if that happens it will have to be a big deal. They didn’t wait this long to cast the Crow’s Eye for nothing, and there are a lot of other things going on there concerning

      Euron, Dany and her dragons, the warlocks, and the Citadel

      that could have far reaching consequences for the realm.

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    51. Daughter of Winter,

      I agree with this.
      High Sparrow was beautifully directed, and probably one of my favorite slow episodes of the show’s entire run.
      Sons of the Harpy was a bit less consistant, but the high notes were very high.

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    52. I really can’t see why people complain about lack of female directors. It’s not about gender, it’s about who’s best for the job.

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    53. A lot of ridiculous overreactions here. Let’s look at the facts:

      According to a survey only 14% of primetime tv series directors are women. Now D&D chose 5 people this season to direct the show. The probability that they would choose all men, assuming no bias towards men or women is 0.86^5 = 47%.

      So based on this evidence, claims that Game of Thrones is more sexist than other shows is just plain wrong.

      That’s not to say that the tv industry isn’t sexist in establishing its ‘pool’ – that it something up for debate. But bear in mind that one would have to account for how many women apply for these sorts of jobs as well (along with a host of other factors).

      http://variety.com/2014/artisans/news/female-directors-helming-only-14-of-series-tv-survey-finds-1201307375/

      Robb Snow,

      JamesL,

      Good points.

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    54. Joshua Atreides:

      Don’t mess with SJW’s man. Even the great feminist Joss Whedon fell under their axe. Re: One line of dialogue from Black Widow in Avengers: Age of Ultron.

      Yeah, I know about that one. Serves to show you what happens when faux-political correctness and SJWs lose it and go crazy.

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    55. Interesting line-up, especially with Sapochnik once again directing the big-scale battles of this season. However, I´m slightly scared they could run into problems concerning the arc of suspense this season with so many important battles impending.
      Put simply: how do they plan to fit all of these events in?

      Oldtown is happening and thus Euron has a big part to play in that arch, however, this can´t happen before episode six since he needs a bit of buildup himself. That would be battle one.

      The second big event would be Daenerys´ invasion of Westeros. This can be dealt with a lot faster since pretty much every character is fully explored, their goals are known and the writers will let a lot of travel-time happen in the off-season. Still, since Meereen must be govered in the meantime (Harpies are still around), they will have to face lot of explaining why Daenerys can leave Essos exactly NOW. There is no way she could just fly out of Meereen, leaving a shattered city behind with a civil war raging amongst the different ranks of the society. A lot of explaining has to be done there, possibly even a minor battle will occur, which will delay Daenerys´ departure to at least episode 5. So now we have 2-3 battles, assuming that Daenery´ arrival in Westeros will not proceed peacefully.

      Now to the big questions: will there be a battle of Ice, resulting in the breaching of the wall? Maybe, but if it will happen, it´s the major occurrence of S6, instantly taking a spot in episode 9 or 10. Letting Sapochnik, who is now famous for his masterfully sense of aesthetics of the WW and big battle sequences, direct these episodes is a huge hint that sth will happen at the wall. Battle 3/4.

      Second big question: Bran is back and will mostly be sitting back providing insight to the world, however, the casting call for the child of the forest (it´s safe to say it is for a cotf) explicitly demanded physical top conditions since “action sequences” would be involved in the filming. So what are we going to do with that information? Assume the Others will attack the warded cave? I do think so. This would be battle 4/5, which is an extremely high amount.
      And we haven´t even talked about Cersei´s trial, which will be another “battle”, taking spot number 5/6. Good thing about that one is, that the trial can more or less happen fairly early in the season, bridging the gap between the midgame of the season and the climax.

      Still, they can´t just cram all these things in the last three episodes having in mind that they also need a reasonable transition to season 7 which will not have much time to deal with a complex aftermath of two/three gi-normous battles (being the ultmiate season of GoT).
      So what do you think? Has anyone an idea how they could possibly handle such a vast amount of important material?

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    56. Oh boy, any connection to LOST makes me nervous! The biggest sham in TV history!
      Well I guess he isnt to be blamed for those writers! They shouldve been sued for “writing” that show!

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    57. I hope this Season redeems the mess that was Season 5 and does not turn out to be another crappy season.

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    58. srsly ?! Do you guys actually think they said to themselves “LET’S ONLY HAVE MEN . WOMEN SUCK”?!
      Has it crossed your minds that they might’ve chosen those who they think are the best for the role ?
      Imo those who are actually counting women directors and are nagging about lack of a female director , are the true sexists . Can’t you just look above gender ? just for once ?
      Getting tired of these sexists who are ruining the whole definition of Feminism .

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    59. Arrowtic:
      srsly ?! Do you guys actually think they said to themselves “LET’S ONLY HAVE MEN . WOMEN SUCK”?!
      Has it crossed your minds that they might’ve chosen those who they think are the best for the role ?
      Imo those who are actually counting women directors and are nagging about lack of a female director , are the true sexists . Can’t you just look above gender ? just for once ?
      Getting tired of these sexists who are ruining the whole definition of Feminism .

      You obviously believe that white men are inherently superior to everyone, huh? You’re probably a cis white male. Check your privilege, shitlord.

      /sarcasm

      Fuck, I’m glad that basements and the internet are the 21st century’s answer for mental hospitals. Imagine if these people actually stepped outside and walked among us? It’s bad enough that we have to share the air with them.

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    60. Why so many saying there should be a female director.. Pretty sure you don’t just hire a female just to hire one.. Hiring one isn’t gonna change anything, there’s still a story they want to tell and the female director isn’t gonna just decide hey actually let’s not rape Sansa this episode.

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    61. this site is done. an article about season 6 directors but the comment section filled with gender politics? wtf?! you people disgust me

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    62. How many posts are going to call people the C word? WTF? This board has always been civil and it’s disgusting that some people don’t like the way the discussion is going and turn to name calling. Lack of women writers and directors is a valid discussion. If you don’t like it and can’t be civil, stay off this board. Take your hate and misogyny to Reddit where you will be loved for what you perceive as clever insights. If you disagree and can be civil, then comment. There’s no need to be nasty and no one on this board deserves to be called names.

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    63. JamesL,

      Thank you.
      I did not know that
      That backs what I have been saying all this time. people seriously need to get over the violence against women in this show. There is violence against everyone. Its a fucking TV show for Gods sakes. Dragons aren’t real by the way. STOP watching if its too much for you. These are realities of life. Especially the life that’s being paralleled in this story… medieval times. This was more prominent. We also have very powerful women as well.

      Did anyone watch the Sopranos? How are women treated in that show? They are fuck buddies and house wives.

      Get the fuck over it peeps.
      I don’t even know why this had to become a sexism argument. Why couldn’t we discuss the directors, what to expect, our favorite episodes of theres.. etc.

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    64. Lauren,

      Thank you. The fact that there are more posts telling so-called “SJWs” to calm down, nastily I might add, then there are posts questioning why there aren’t any women directors in this roster is telling.

      The role of women in this show as pertaining to the topic posted above is a totally valid discussion. Those of you resorting to name-calling in the comments should take a second to look at what they posted. There are three things you need to ask yourselves.

      1) Is this the way I’d want to be communicated to when I expressed something that I care about?

      2) Is this a statement I want representing me as a person on a global website?

      3) Would I actually say this to anyone in person?

      Most of you will ignore this, or fire back that you totally stand by your position. Whatever, you do you. But hopefully at least one of you (especially those of you being derisive and using profanity) will do this and have a reality check about your decisions.

      I also want to point out that every time you say “they picked the right man for the job”, you’re basically saying that the female directors and writers available have all been rounded up, and all of them proved inferior to the rotating cast of male directors we’ve seen over the seasons. Every one.

      Okay, then.

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    65. Both Jeremy Podeswa and Mark Mylod? Seriously? They made some of the worst scenes this season. Mylod made the Barristan fighting death scene and Podeswa made the Sand Snakes fight scene.

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    66. No David Nutter? I’m sorry to hear that!
      He’s the director of Mother’s Mercy and The Rains of Castamere, I didn’t expect this at all.

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    67. A person shouldn’t be hired for a job based solely on gender. It’s D&D’s show, it’s their vision, and it’s their decision.

      Get over yourselves.

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    68. Queen of the Keys:
      No David Nutter? I’m sorry to hear that!
      He’s the director of Mother’s Mercy and The Rains of Castamere, I didn’t expect this at all.

      He’s had knee replacement surgery and is recuperating from that. He hopes to be back for season 7.

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    69. Ravyn,

      Dolorous Edd will rally them all with his stunning gusto and amazing wit:

      I just want to say to whoever is voting for me that I would certainly make an awful Lord Commander. But so would all these others.

      I had a frightening dream last night, m’lord. You were my steward, fetching my food and cleaning up my leavings. I was lord commander, with never a moment’s peace.

      It was a relief to see that horn burn, my lord. Just last night I dreamt I was pissing off the Wall when someone decided to give the horn a toot. Not that I’m complaining. It was better than my old dream, where Harma Dogshead was feeding me to her pigs.

      The dead are likely dull fellows, full of tedious complaints – “the ground’s too cold, my gravestone should be larger, why does HE get more worms than I do…”

      “We’ll defend the Wall to the last man,” said Cotter Pyke.

      “Probably me,” said Dolorous Edd, in a resigned tone.

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    70. Arya’ Havin’ a Larf?,

      Oh no, I’m sorry for him! So he really CAN’T come back next season, that’s pretty much the only reason why I can understand him not being confirmed since he always makes an amazing job.
      Thank you for telling me, I hope he recovers well and soon!

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    71. Queen of the Keys:
      Arya’ Havin’ a Larf?,

      Oh no, I’m sorry for him! So he really CAN’T come back next season, that’s pretty much the only reason why I can understand him not being confirmed since he always makes an amazing job.
      Thank you for telling me, I hope he recovers well and soon!

      It’s worth noting that I’m pretty sure he didn’t come back for Season 4, either. He said he wanted some time off after doing 3×09 in order to mentally steel himself for his next batch of episodes, IIRC. At that point there was some talk of how he might become an “every other season” Thrones director.

      My hope is that Season 7 gets the “big split season” treatment many fans are pining for which leads to another 14-16 more episodes or so after Season 6’s wrap-up. Of course there are many reasons a fan of a show would want it to continue for longer, but one of them is related to this discussion: it could mean a nice long list of ace GoT directors for an extended final production. Sometimes I wonder if the showrunners have gone through so many directors (relatively speaking of course) precisely because they’ve been assembling an A-team of trusted vets for 2016-17’s development timetable.

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    72. Ginevra,

      This made my morning.

      90% of my Thrones off-season this year is going to be covered in worry over the fate of Jon Snow, but it’s a pleasure to remember that the remaining 10% can be laced with glee that Dolorous Edd survived Hardhome.

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    73. chamush:
      Oh boy, any connection to LOST makes me nervous! The biggest sham in TV history!
      Well I guess he isnt to be blamed for those writers! They shouldve been sued for “writing” that show!

      So are you talking about the infamous finale where so many fans were shocked by the religious ending that they thought was “out of the blue”?

      Remember that brilliant quote by Ramsay that sums up the entire GoT series? “If you think this has a happy ending, you haven’t been paying attention.” A very similar comment could be made about Lost: If you think this series was never building toward a religious ending, you haven’t been paying attention.

      http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Bible

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    74. Jeff O’Connor,

      I’m glad I could help, Jeff. That definitely started as a joke – Dolorous Edd, commanding the Night’s Watch, indeed, right? But then two or three quotes from Edd had me thinking that there may actually be a teensy bit of legit foreshadowing there.

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    75. Yay Miguel Sapochnik, Hardhome was great and he seemed great in the behind the scenes

      But why Jeremy Podeswa? The Sand Snakes fight was soooooo badly directed, it was such a waste of potential and months and months of combat training for the actors

      Hopefully for Season 7 they won’t have to risk any new names and can get proven people back like Alex Graves, David Nutter, Neil Marshall & Alan Taylor back for the final season

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    76. So when’s the third site launch? Just make a new one each season before the false outrage protesters can ruin it.

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    77. JamesL:
      Ravyn,

      The show was certainly male driven and focused on the 2 male leads but that does not make it sexist. Was the Sopranos sexist? Goodfellas(or hell, half of Scorsese’s filmography) sexist? Is any story that happens to be more masculine driven “misogynistic” or “sexist”? Image all the great films or shows that should also be condemned for “misogyny” using the logic used to criticize True Detective.

      Actually, yes. Scorsese’s movies are usually pretty sexist. Even The Godfather was sexist. A lot of flicks conduct misogynist ideas. But I’m still a huge fan of Scorsese! It’s not wrong to admit something as glaring as that and yet defend these movies for what made them great. No movies are ever perfect. The same goes with tv shows.

      I think the point here is that if D&D really went for the directors they thought were going to do the best work for S6, everything is great. However, some people do wonder if they aren’t a little biased and taking good male directors over similarly good female directors. I guess we’ll probably never find out, but anyone has the right to ask these questions.

      EDIT: True Detective was great! Rust and Marty had some amazing chemistry.

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    78. Mormont,

      There still could be season 8 on the cards.I mean Dany will sooner or later arrive in Westeros.I imagine season 6 finale as the best option or maybe episode 9.One season of Dany in Westeros is simply not enough (at least for me).

      Nutter will be back for sure.Miguel seems to be the new guy for battles,but the I always imagined the last battle War fot he Dawn.We need both Neil and Miguel for this.It’s gonna be so big and epic beyond the words.

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    79. I’ve said it before – this site (in its previous form) used to have decent conversation about the subject issue without all the vitriol. That being said, I honestly believe that D&D could use 3 or 4 DIVERSE screenwriters to comment on and revise their scripts. Prime example for major improvement: Dorne debacle

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    80. Cersei’s Brain,

      I don’t care if they are “diverse” but I’ve always believed the show would benefit from having more voices in the writers room to help map out or write each season. It is hard to juggle all these storyline and pace each season, having more talent in the writers room to give ideas would definitely benefit the show.

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    81. Joshua Atreides:
      Sackheim???? Cool. Who’s next Rob Bowman? Chris Carter? Vince Gilligan? Michelle McClaren…oh wait.

      A pity Kim Manners passed away.

      It would be intriguing to see what Darin Morgan would do with a GoT episode… apparently he is back for the new series!

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    82. GeekFurious,

      Michelle MacLaren might be too busy, her star is rising, she’s rumored for a Star Wars spinoff, Better Call Saul season 2 might be using her too.

      Though if they didn’t want her back for some reason they’re nuts, she’s awesome.

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    83. Yeah, as noted, no Neil Marshall, but then hard to know what that means.
      Wish Sapochnik had directed S5E9 the action sequence needed his hand.
      Have not a clue as to what S6E9 could be!

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    84. Ginevra,

      I didn’t have a problem with the religious aspects of Lost, but how how the show posed a million questions and didn’t answer all of them by the end. Don’t get me wrong; having a shit ton of mysteries in a story is a great way to hook people and keep them thoroughly engaged. But if you don’t answer them by the end then it comes across as sloppy storytelling and cheap trickery. The fact that GRRM had a similar problem with the ending of Lost gives me a lot of hope that ASOIAF won’t end the same way. It wouldn’t surprise me if these last two books are the hardest for him to write in that he has to “untangle the Meereenese knot” and see that all of these character arcs reach their logical conclusions. I say he just kills everyone and leaves Hodor standing. Makes sense to me haha.

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    85. Maceless Fan:
      Ginevra,

      I didn’t have a problem with the religious aspects of Lost, but how how the show posed a million questions and didn’t answer all of them by the end. Don’t get me wrong; having a shit ton of mysteries in a story is a great way to hook people and keep them thoroughly engaged. But if you don’t answer them by the end then it comes across as sloppy storytelling and cheap trickery. The fact that GRRM had a similar problem with the ending of Lost gives me a lot of hope that ASOIAF won’t end the same way. It wouldn’t surprise me if these last two books are the hardest for him to write in that he has to “untangle the Meereenese knot” and see that all of these character arcs reach their logical conclusions. I say he just kills everyone and leaves Hodor standing. Makes sense to me haha.

      Your wish…

      https://dakrolak.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/tumblr_n3drykuamf1spf68yo1_500.jpg

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    86. GeekFurious,

      Agreed. And it’s not just a gender equity thing. Michelle McClaren is one of the best directors in the GOT stable. Her episode from last season, which ended with the ice baby, remains one of my favorites.

      That said, Sapochnik for Episode 9 and 10 is a dream come true! He more than proved his mettle this season.

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    87. Luka Nieto: By the way… another year with no female perspective in the writing room or the director’s chair. And, ever year, it shows

      Does it show? I didn’t see all that much discernible difference in terms of writing or directing in the season where there were female writers and directors (Season 2, 3 and 4).

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    88. Cersei’s Brain,

      That was all that I was trying to say with my earlier comment. Do I think that D&D CONSCIOUSLY exclude women and people of color from the writing and directing process of this show? Of course not. To even suggest that would be ridiculous. Do I think that an UNCONSCIOUS bias against the ability of women and people of color to work well in the fantasy genre (i.e.: those people just don’t get fantasy) might be at play in who D&D decide to hire? Yeah, I do. Do I think that the show as a whole could be improved if D&D would involve a more diverse range of perspectives in the creative decision-making process? Absolutely.

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    89. Ravyn: Alex Graves directed “And Now His Watch Is Ended” and “The Children”, two of the best episodes in the entire run.

      Dictatorially, the children was not a great episode. Kissed by Fire and Lion and the Rose were by him and were great.

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    90. Davos’ Luck:
      Yay! Miguel Sapochnik for episodes 9 &10… Well deserved and earned, the guy was by far the best director last season… “Hardhome” was a masterpiece, and “The Gift” was pretty damn good too.

      +1

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    91. Cersei’s Brain,

      She has no real input creatively. In fact, we have evidence he ignores her at every turn.

      Would you say an editor for the tv show has creative input?

      Edit: Also, if you really want to count Anne Groelle, then logically the female producers and cinematographers for the show count, of which there are several.

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    92. Wimsey,

      Wimsey: It shouldn’t be surprising: many women directors would want to emphasize just how badly women are treated in societies such as the ones on which Westerosi societies are modeled.

      Indeed, one of the very few defences of the Sansa rape scene I read by a person with the capacity to write coherent sentences was from über-feminist Amanda Marcotte.

      http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2015/05/18/another_major_character_is_raped_on_game_of_thrones_this_time_it_works_for.html

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    93. Cersei’s Brain,

      Look up the manuscript for Dance, GRRM basically ignored everything that wasn’t a spelling suggestion. Groell never actually makes creative suggestions, merely structural ones.

      In any case, you’ve basically side-stepped my question. Would A Song of Ice and Fire be better if it was written by a diverse committee, as you are suggesting the show should be to a greater degree? Surely if a committee always makes for better writing, it would also help the books. And I’m not talking about minor creative input, like an editor.

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    94. GOT fans are such drama queens.

      One person shoots an illogical complaint, then three jump on him, then ten steer the conversation in a completely different direction and then it’s just a free for all. Almost every post is like this. lol

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    95. Yes, let’s hash out the female director issue. All to the good. Then, to ensure the correct mix, the commentariat should vet the entire cast, crew, and creative team in regard to race, ethnicity, religion, political affiliation, voting record, criminal record, marital status, sexual orientation, alma mater, nepotism, twitter tweets, and, I don’t know, country of origin.

      Knock yourselves out.

      For me, though, the bottom line is that GoT is a very small club–and I’m not in it! *** sigh*** (Hire me, D&D!)

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    96. Zalos: Actually, yes. Scorsese’s movies are usually pretty sexist. Even The Godfather was sexist. A lot of flicks conduct misogynist ideas. But I’m still a huge fan of Scorsese! It’s not wrong to admit something as glaring as that and yet defend these movies for what made them great. No movies are ever perfect. The same goes with tv shows.

      Your choice of words are not very fair… Yes, these movies are sexist but only because they are based on real life events and are true to their time. I mean the Godfather properly portrays how things were at that time, to the Italian culture in general and in relation to the mafia/families. Society was sexist back then and to portray it as anything but that would not be accurate. The same goes with GOT… with Sopranos… Are the creators / directors / writers of such phenomenal works supposed to change things just so they don’t seem sexist? People should know what to expect when they start watching these types of TV shows or go to movies like that.

      anyway… I love scorcese too.

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    97. People are allowed to discuss political and gender aspects of the show and the creation of the show. Game of Thrones is not created in a vacuum. Please remain respectful of your fellow commenters.

      There have always been people with strong opinions, and vitriolic conversations always pop up from time to time- this is nothing new. Anything claiming otherwise has forgotten several messy threads. Certainly they never had to moderate some of the clusterfucks that I’ve had to in the last three and a half years.

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    98. cosca:
      Cersei’s Brain,

      Would A Song of Ice and Fire be better if it was written by a diverse committee, as you are suggesting the show should be to a greater degree?

      Would Game of Thrones be a better TV show if it was the work of a solitary auteur? The comparison doesn’t work. Television production is intrinsically collaborative, and book writing isn’t.

      In any case, it strikes me that who writes or directs episodes has had nothing like as much relationship to episode quality as everybody says.

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    99. James,

      I agree with everything you said 100%. You should copy/paste this post every time people make inane claims that GoT is misogynistic, because it sums everything up perfectly.

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    100. JamesL,

      Exactly. The violence against women is in the writing because it is in the world. Female directors wouldn’t change anything on that front, the only difference is that idiotic critics wouldn’t complain as much about a scene directed by a woman, thus proving 99% of their complaints to be unfounded.

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    101. Wimsey,

      You’re right though. We don’t know the details of the director-selection process. For all we know fewer female directors are interested in doing a show of this nature, or perhaps there are simply fewer female TV directors on the market. Most shows have mostly male directors, and GoT is basically the only one that gets all this shit. Along with True Detective but that is a whole other can of worms.

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    102. Chad Brick,

      Yup. Forget it man, people who want to incessantly criticize GoT for being misogynistic are beyond reason at this point. For some reason, sexual violence against women perpetrated by a CHARACTER in a medieval setting (please nobody Andy Greenwald me and say it’s actually a modern setting or some shit like that) is treated by critics as though the showrunners are perpetrating the crimes themselves. What the actual fuck ? Are the showrunners also treacherous murderers for doing the Red Wedding ? Do they also hate the people that Stannis and Mel have burned ? No, of course not. Misogyny means hatred of women, usually suffused with a belief that women are inferior, and showing a woman being raped as many were in those times and still are today does not mean that the show hates women. It means it is interested in showing their plight instead of pretending that everything was peachy.
      Plus, those critics who called the show misogynistic for supposedly portraying Sansa in a weak manner when she was assaulted need to really tread carefully. I think it’s far more misogynistic to say that if a woman is raped then it means she is weak. Could that even be called victim blaming ? Hmm.
      In any event, showing a woman suffer oppression at the hands of horrible men and powering through could only be seen as misogynistic by a moron or someone who plainly doesn’t understand the word “misogyny”.
      If anyone thinks a fair portrayal of women is pretending they don’t suffer at the hands of men, then they seriously need to rethink things. Or just think in the first place before saying inane bullshit.

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    103. Davos’ Luck:
      Yay! Miguel Sapochnik for episodes 9 &10… Well deserved and earned, the guy was by far the best director last season… “Hardhome” was a masterpiece, and “The Gift” was pretty damn good too.

      Agreed. Honestly think Hardhome transcended television. It was better than most big budget Hollywood productions. When I look back at 2015 (in terms of action storytelling) I have a feeling two things will remain at the very top of the list: Fury Road and Hardhome.

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    104. Robb Snow,

      What they’ll do is tease a big battle than show like someone waking up or against a tree , so we can use our imagination about the battle

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    105. Next year I don’t want any hints like stannis talking about stone men than we knew we we’re seeing stone men – my girls unsullied she had no idea about anything she won’t even read anything online about thrones but by episode 8 she guesses olly was gonna kill Jon – that’s bad writing

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    106. JamesL,

      You’re right, and perhaps more importantly, and by the same idiotic token, are shows such as Sex and the City , Desperate Housewives, Girls, etc.. sexist against men for focusing on female leads and their friendships ? These critics need to stay away from sexual politics, or politics in general actually, because they rarely seem to have the brain power to handle it with any degree of intellectual integrity.

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    107. Ravyn,

      Overall I agree with your points, but I do disgree when it comes to True Detective. I think it says more about society’s perception of women that we classified those women as sluts and frigid wives than it does about True Detective. Personally, the word “slut”, meant to describe women who are sexually promiscuous, needs to be retired in my opinion. It is an insult designed to put down women who enjoy sex. It’s such an inherently misogynistic word, that there isn’t a male equivalent. We have to resort to calling men who have similar behavior “man-whores”, and that only happens when we aren’t calling them playboys or Casanovas, two terms that don’t have the same pejorative connotation that the term “slut” does. I’m not saying using the word “slut” makes one misogynistic, but I do think it is a way of judging women that needs to be done away with.
      As for “frigid” wives, I personally didn’t feel that way and was compelled by Michelle Monaghan’s performance, even if she wasn’t as important as Marty and Rust, I thought she was interesting, I sympathized with her and a no point did I think she was frigid.
      But that’s just my two cents on that, otherwise I’m with you.

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    108. Grand maester giz,

      Oh great, Giz is back to whine about how much he hated season 5!
      We’ve already read AD NAUSEUM about how much you hated it,
      but this is a post about season 6!

      Let it go, move on!

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    109. Robb Snow,

      To answer your series of questions, NO. They don’t know anything about any of that, for the most part. They’re mostly just presumptuous. Astoundingly so.

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    110. RBloodworth: That was all that I was trying to say with my earlier comment. Do I think that D&D CONSCIOUSLY exclude women and people of color from the writing and directing process of this show? Of course not. .

      I could be wrong, but based on the pic I’ve seen of Dave Hill, he doesn’t look white. Dunno if he’s writing for season 6. Just thought I’d mention it, since people are discussing the people of color angle.

      eta: I did some research and yeah, he is definitely Asian.

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    111. Grand maester giz:
      You people are to hardheaded to admit besides Hardhome the writing was garbage this year . And it pisses me off

      It was inconsistent, not garbage. And you also spoiled someone I am friends with on here with your ramblings so you can suck all the dicks around.

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    112. Good fucking grief! As a woman, I cannot tell you absolutely sick of the SJW bullshit that permeates everywhere I visit on the interwebs…………….

      YAY!!!!!! All season 6 directors selected! Filming to start soon! April can’t get here soon enough. Well except for GURM; he better hurry the fuck up.

      Oh and I NEED Mads!

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    113. More than a problem of directing, it’s a problem of writing. How they dare to turn three dimensional characters in Hollywood strong women shit? Again?

      Asoiaf stands out in fantasy genre not only by his stories, but also its female characters. They’re not the “awesome helping the hero girl”, the nurturing mother, the damsell in distress, the hot warrior, the wise rational elf love interest or the evil witch, clichés seen thousands of times before.

      James,

      All the female characters are butchered, erased or changed to let male characters shine or get laid. The “strong women” of the show are the idea of Hollywood strong women are (brutal warriors not feminine at all, hot bitches who love catfights and nice girls next door who help the hero). Every. Fucking. Episode. If they don’t have it, they create it on purpose, even changing or eliminating full plots. They add deep and agenda to male characters who are pretty flat on the books at the same time destroying female (Cat? Sansa? All related with Dorne? Tyrion can has a Deux ex Machina to became ruler of Meeren in two episodes and Sansa can’t has her own to become Queen in the North?). It’s really obvious.

      And don’t let me start with eyecandy, male gaze, sexposition or work ethics. Have Tyrion raped forn no discerneable reason, have Jaime and Littlefinger full frontal naked more than 3 minutes on screen to seduce Ellaria, wait three years to rape Bran so the actor is non jail bait, kill Stannis after being shot with a crossword because he refuse to do naked scenes. We can start talking about equality then.

      This is not an issue about “historical accuracity” shit or “it was like that back then”. This is a social issue about how a group of homophobic racist mysoginistic assholes like to threat and destroy non white cis male characters to create its own sick fanfic, so that white cis male characters can win.

      Thank you, GOT. You has become THE compendium about what’s wrong on movies or shows around the world.

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    114. How we can condemn D&D’s “hubris” while simultaneously believing that we should have executive-level control over production decisions via the comments section of a fan website is beyond me. Hooray for internet.

      Yes, I agree that it would have been nice if they had made more of an effort to put females in high places for next season. But they didn’t, and we’re all going to keep watching the show anyway.

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    115. Doran:
      GeekFurious,

      There is a reason why 99% percent of the humanity wealth is in possession of men. It’s a FACT, ATENTTION, A FACT that men are more intelligent than women. Say what you want but those are facts. You were lied too much by feminists that women and men are equal. No, we are not equal.We have the same rights, but different value.

      Thank you for clearing this up. And here I was, thinking that women are our equals when in fact they’re second class citizens. I’ve been so stupid all this time, but your wisdom has shown me the way.

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    116. SlayerNina: You has become THE compendium about what’s wrong on movies or shows around the world.

      Ridiculous hyperbole always makes for the best conversations I always say.

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    117. SlayerNina,

      By the way, you’re strong women you posted as an example are pure shit:

      -Brienne, the killing machine literally doing ANYTHING this season instead of the innocent moral knight wannabe.
      -Margaery the walking himmen instead of the cunning politician.
      -Arya the killing machine “not like the other girls” (because girls are shallow, vapid, stupid and weak), the most sexist and mysoginist thing ever said. And threatened with rape twice.
      -Cersei, the real villain of Westeros (murderer, narcicisstic, paranoid, evil) don’t worry, now she has Womb Syndrome.
      -Catelyn the annoying mom instead of the politician. She had even less screen time on season 3 than Ross.
      -“I was good” Queen of Thorns. Oh, c’mon.
      -Melissandra. Is she a strepper or something?
      -Ellaria. Of course, from Queen Myrcella and Doran Master Plan to revenge-revenge-revenge because they kill my lover.
      -Hail Daenerys. She’s safe because she has dragoooooooonnssssss. And being recued by several men in the pits and mansplain Tyrion instead of fight against a dragon herself. Yeahhhhh

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    118. Sunfyre: When I look back at 2015 (in terms of action storytelling) I have a feeling two things will remain at the very top of the list: Fury Road and Hardhome.

      Totally agree !

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    119. red viper,

      he comes here every now and then, no one minds him, he rages, he quits, he leaves. everything is better.

      no point in trying to argue with people who are not ready to admit they’re wrong

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    120. Mihnea,

      I know … I don’t usually respond to the trolls, but he’s just so over the top, and I’m a little bored at work this morning, so I thought I’d have a little fun!

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    121. red viper,

      social justice woman, supposedly used as an insult but personally because I am a woman who wants social justice, I am rather pleased to be called such. That being said – I’d rather spend my energy on social justice in the real world than worry about it in a fanstasy world Sure I’d like some woman directors and such, but I am more interesting in other aspects of the story, and will spend my time on doing some good in this world.

      ETA – oh I guess its social justice warrior; well I can be that too, what the hell!

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    122. ash,

      Thanks for the info, but someone else responded that it stands for Social Justice Warrior, which I like better … this way anyone can push/debate social justice on a variety of issues …

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    123. I wonder if Alex Graves not coming back has anything to do with Septgate.

      Yay for Miguel Sapochnik! Hardhome was fucking fantastic.

      I wonder if there’s a particular reason Slovis isn’t back. Ditto for MacLaren: I checked IMDB and she doesn’t have anything else in the works as far as I can tell. I agree with JamesL that more women behind or in front of the camera doesn’t guarantee more woman-friendly content: Vanessa Taylor wrote not only the scene where Joffrey abuses the prostitutes but also the scene where Sansa comes thisclose to getting gang-raped.

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    124. Maceless Fan:
      Ginevra,
      Don’t get me wrong; having a shit ton of mysteries in a story is a great way to hook people and keep them thoroughly engaged. But if you don’t answer them by the end then it comes across as sloppy storytelling and cheap trickery.

      I have much less defense of Lost on that behalf, but the loose ends and unanswered questions didn’t bother me nearly as much as it bothered others. I tend to think if these questions had all been answered, fans would have been equally disappointed.

      Gorghan of Old Ghis once wrote that a prophecy [mystery] is like a treacherous woman. She takes your member in her mouth, and you moan with the pleasure of it and think, how sweet, how fine, how good this is… and then her teeth snap shut and your moans turn to screams. That is the nature of prophecy, said Gorghan. Prophecy will bite your prick off every time.

      Fans get so invested in our own theories about how all of the mysteries of a show or book series will pan out that solving a mystery is often a greater disappointment than leaving the mystery unresolved.

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    125. Yikes… Here’s how this “discussion” went from what I can tell:

      People: Wow, I’m excited about these great directors, but I wish they had managed to include a female director or writer like every other season.

      Response: OMG, SJW – lol you’re crazy STFU

      And then there was this…

      Doran: There is a reason why 99% percent of the humanity wealth is in possession of men. It’s a FACT, ATENTTION, A FACT that men are more intelligent than women. Say what you want but those are facts. You were lied too much by feminists that women and men are equal. No, we are not equal. We have the same rights, but different value.

      Yikes

      Sue, I am sorry that you have to deal with this clusterF.

      A starting point for those that would like to discuss facts: http://womenintvfilm.sdsu.edu/files/2013_Celluloid_Ceiling_Report.pdf

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    126. Funny thing is, if there was a woman among the directors people would immediately start shooting off towards “why are they all white!”. There would be no end to the bullshit until one person of every race, gender (including transvestites and androgenus) and sexual attraction are represented in this list.

      Literally the only female director I know of that does TV and is up for the task is Michelle MacLaren. It’s not that there’s a wealth of quality female TV directors to pick from. And we really don’t know anything about Michelle’s availability. It’s entirely possible she was asked, but that it doesn’t gel with her schedule.

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    127. Simeon,

      only those? directing anyway should be left to the pro’s, i’m happy if they write the episode’s. the one’s they write are always the best

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    128. SlayerNina,

      Nice copy and paste straight from Tumblr. I read this exact same bullshit everywhere on Tumblr, which has been completely ruined by SJW’s.

      Do you have an original thought of your own?

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    129. Darkstar:
      red viper,

      I think if people quit responding to him, maybe he’ll go away. It’s hard to resist smacking down a troll, but we’ll all be happier for it.

      I wish I could break the “like” button responding to this.

      YES!!! There are signs up, are there not? DON’T FEED THE TROLLS.

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    130. jentario,

      Funny how “director gender equality” is now somehow an item. Big deal.

      EDIT: Just to be clear, that doesn’t mean I agree AT ALL with the incredibly rude statements by some concerning this topic.

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    131. Ginevra,

      The Gorghan of old Gis notwithstanding, I’d be almost (almost!) willing to take one for the team if it means finding out R+L=? and all the rest.

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    132. Strong lineup, the best along Season 1 and 5. Sapochnik should have directed EP8 and EP9 of Season 5, this guy is by far the best action director of the show. Perhaps Hardhome AND Daznak was too much for him to plan. I’m relieved that Nutter and Graves aren’t returning for the big ones because they can’t shoot crucial action scenes properly.

      – Daznak (while it was very good, towards the end it was a mess)
      – Yunkai fight (nope)
      – Queenscrown (boring fight)
      – Oberyn vs Mountain (I still liked it, TOO MUCH QUICK CUTS)
      – Brienne vs Hound (same, loved that one but the directing sucked)
      – Stannis Behind the Wall and Winterfell (His two biggest actions scenes has been ruined on the show
      – Bran & co vs Skeletons. (so much potential butit was just good nothing more, once again the quick cuts ruined it)

      Seven moments that could have been handled better IMO.

      Great news for the final two. Very excited, big expectations of course. For the rest of the season ? I don’t know….I still think it’s going to be the weakest and a lot of people will hate on it but we’ll see.

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    133. I see my comment was passed over. I challenge anyone here to share any knowledge they have of GOT’s hiring practices for directors and the circumstances that allowed for some directors to work or not work on this show, how many of them were female, and anything else relevant to the case that sexism was a factor in the hiring process for directors this year, or last year for that matter.

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    134. WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS?!? – Written by Vanessa Taylor. Went on to adapt Divergent.. Another massive flop. Should she come back though, because she’s a woman, or should she stay away, because of the bad quality of her work?

      I’m firmly against quota’s. People should be hired based on their quality honed, not gender forced.

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    135. *flails Kermit arms*

      Seriously though, despite all the insanity on this particular thread, I have loved being a part of this site this season. I don’t post or read any others because I just don’t have time (keeping up with comments here is the most time I’ve dedicated to talking/reading about a tv show/book series while maintaining a full time job and social life….ever). So thanks!

      If we get 2 Hardhome-level episodes from Sapochnik in S6, it could be the best season yet. Even more so because I generally won’t know wtf is going on with anyone, which is a new experience for this sullied gal, and a welcome one in its own way. 🙂

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    136. Darkstar,

      It is!

      I like each for their own merits…as with everything, I wish some things had been addressed in the show, but understand that it can’t all be done, nor should it. And the show has improved or portrayed differently some things in the books, and others not so much, but hey… really – I’m just dreading both being finished! 🙂

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    137. Ser Oromis Locke:
      WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS?!? – Written by Vanessa Taylor. Went on to adapt Divergent.. Another massive flop. Should she come back though, because she’s a woman, or should she stay away, because of the bad quality of her work?

      I’m firmly against quota’s. People should be hired based on their quality honed, not gender forced.

      I recall Vanessa Taylor’s Season 3 episode being pilloried by fans as one of the worst in the series (up to that point, anyway), and I always assumed that was why she didn’t come back, but…Divergent made $288 million worldwide. Critically, it was no great shakes, but it made money. It was hardly a massive flop. The Mortal Instruments movie, on the other hand…

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    138. I liked Sapochnik and Podeswa, and Bender was great on Lost. I dont know Sackheim. Mylod did not leave great impression to me, but it might be more writing problem in his episodes. Sand Snakes introduction on the beach was so bad, but ultimately it had to be D+D decision to introduce them like that, it was not Mylod´s fault and probably not even Dave Hill´s fault. He can be blamed for extreme use of exposition, but i doubt he wrote the scene that was used for auditions.

      I cant be bothered to respond to ignorant people who think that a medieval setting and female nudity is a sign of misogyny, but i will say that i would like to see Alex Graves back. He did some great episodes. I hope the showrunners dont allow themself to be influenced by some internet trolls.

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    139. Darkstar,

      I don’t think it’s about rage. I think it’s about kneejerk reactions and a failure to consider real life circumstances. People make accusations of sexism, racism, etc. too frequently and too lightly. These are serious accusations that should never be made without ample evidence. If you don’t know all of the facts, then it’s best to keep your thoughts to yourself until you do.

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    140. Sue the Fury:
      People are allowed to discuss political and gender aspects of the show and the creation of the show. Game of Thrones is not created in a vacuum. Please remain respectful of your fellow commenters.

      There have always been people with strong opinions, and vitriolic conversations always pop up from time to time- this is nothing new. Anything claiming otherwise has forgotten several messy threads. Certainly they never had to moderate some of the clusterfucks that I’ve had to in the last three and a half years.

      True, I won’t forget the Pedro Pascal casting thread way back. That was a bona fide embarrassment.

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    141. Valaquen,

      i think thats a big factor why people like to insult the dornish…they couldn’t do that with oberyn thats how good pedro was!

      altough there are people on westeros.org who say they turned oberyn into a joke….that’s when i stoped going there, i firmly believe that they made oberyn MORE awesome then the books

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    142. Mark,

      I rewatched T.D. last week and noticed the females in Marty and Rust’s lives both have their heads pretty much screwed on and those two men are the weak fuck ups in dire need of help, which was the entire point, really, in both of the characters. The victims in that show were both male ad female too. I remember the hullaballo in some reviews about the lack of women being front and centre of the story, but the show sidelined everyone (men, women, children) in favour of its two leads, because it was about them.

      I do get the feeling that there are critics who are far too happy to label something misogynistic because those sort of accusations tend to stick very easily nowadays. Oliver Sava at the AVClub is pretty notorious for applying it to shows that don’t call for it. One of his reviews for an episode of Daredevil, in particular, was rife with it, to the chagrin of many site commentators (spoilerish example: http://tinyurl.com/qa4ewgo).

      One thing that annoyed me greatly was Andy Greenwald’s assertion that the camera focusing on Theon’s face devalued Sansa’s ordeal: as he explained this Grantland’s “Maester” nodded his head and blamed the show for this error, when in the books Jeyne is far more feeble than Sansa is and has to be dragged kicking and screaming by Theon to her rescue (whose POV we see the action through). There’s a general whitewashing of the books’ content going on online. I’ve seen people claim that the show has more rapes than the books, which is mind boggling. But maybe characters like Pia or Lollys and Victarion’s salt wife (among many others) weren’t important enough to care about?

      Deesensfan:
      Valaquen,

      Ha, happy I missed that
      What was wrong with the Pedro Pascale casting? I thought he was awesome.

      He wasn’t a ‘real’ person of colour, as the expression goes, I think. I think it was on the old site, and is still there if you Google it.

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    143. Deesensfan,

      Per GRRM Dorne was always supposed to be somewhat like Spain, so Pedro fit. However, some commenters believed the somewhat mixed races inhabiting Dorne should’ve given the show the opportunity to include people of color. I can’t recall all the names bandied about, but they included Idris Elba (black) and Alexander Siddig (Middle Eastern?), who of course went on to be Doran, not Oberyn.

      Yeah, it was a humdinger of a debate. 600+ comments within a day, if I recall. Because Pedro turned out so great, the furor over the casting of the Sand Snakes was rather more muted (In Nina Gold We Trust).

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    144. Robb Snow,

      yup.

      obara to small, not ”ugly” enough
      tyene not blonde with blue eyes
      nym is asian

      i for one believe the problem with dorne was the lack of screen-time, not the actors

      EDIT or you may be sarcastic, it’s hard to see on the internet

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    145. the only its ´´meh´´ for me is Mylod, the rest is pretty okay. Pod was amazing in his shots of episodes 5 and 6. The wdding of sansa,Valirya and tyrion and jorah at the beach. he is amazing.

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    146. Robb Snow,

      As I said, not too much post-Pedro. But back in the day (pre-Pedro), the old site (that shall not be named) had a huge essay on ‘The Importance of Dorne’ (I think that was the actual title, but I could be wrong). If memory serves, certain commenters were ecstatic about the potential of casting women of color as the Sand Snakes. It should be noted that Oberyn’s daughters were indeed of varying races in the books.

      At the time, there was some impatience with the overall whiteness of the GoT cast, and the international fandom wanted to see itself reflected more in the characters to be introduced. I’m not sure if the passions remain as high now on this front, but they certainly were then.

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    147. What the hell. Every character in the Dornish storyline is an example of diversity. They truly cannot win with people on this show!

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    148. Mihnea,

      It’s winteriscoming.net. Most of the staff here came from that site after the original webmaster sold it to Fansided, who proceeded to flood it with clickbait articles and shitty drink recipes while actually cutting the original staff out of the loop on just about everything.

      Avoid that site. This one is way better.

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    149. Mihnea,

      It’s kind of a touchy subject, but the editors/mods here used to be at the Winter Is Coming site. Things went south when Fansided (whatever that is) took ownership and mishandled the property.

      All’s well that end’s well, though, and one and all are happy here (mostly!).

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    150. Sapochnik is good news, but real talk how is Jeremy Podeswa still getting jobs? Dude’s camera work is awful. Unbowed Unbent Unbroken was a laughable episode as far as direction goes.

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    151. Directors come and go in television. Although they can add something special, they’re typically carrying out someone else’s vision. The writing is the important thing. In contrast to the auteur theory of cinema, the showrunner/producer is the decisive force.

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    152. Mihnea,

      Westeros.org is god awful. I used to lurk there for a long while, but I stopped doing even that because of how negative the environment became. I was also finally introduced to one of its webmasters who I’m now convinced is the most toxic person on the planet.

      It makes me appreciate sites like this much more… even if discussions can get a bit nasty regarding social justice issues.

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    153. Robb Snow,

      people like to think there was no hate during SEASON 1-4, but there was A LOT even then. i found it amusing people calling the writing ”shit” on things like: sansa not singing in season 2, the entire talise debate, shae being from lorath…etc.

      i’m not even going to speak about the staff, just looking at linda’s twiter you’ll see how they all are

      this site tough is very good with constructive criticism, altough spirits rise sometime, but when do they not when we talk about a show we love.

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    154. Euron! Euron! Urine King!:
      A female director &/or a female writer would go a long way to assuaging the issues some many people have with the GoT.

      I know the turn around between seasons is quick but it’s worrisome how D&D seam not to respond whatsoever to criticisms of the show, just barreling along in their own way.HUBRIS is has a negative effect on quality

      I totally agree.

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    155. James,

      Amen. My mother that casually follows the show is upset that the costume director left. She couldn’t give less of a shit who directs the show. She understands just its a tv show.

      I think you guys put way too much weight on director selection. Outside of action directors directing big action episodes, the differences in direction are minimal.

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    156. Kingslayer,

      Call me an apologist if you will, but the Sand Snake fight wasn’t entirely Podeswa’s fault. The new stunt coordinator for this season had the actresses playing Obara, Tyene and Nymeria each train for the scene by themselves (understandable, given that they all live in different countries), so they had issues gelling as the tight fighting unit that the Sand Snakes were supposed to be. That might have been acceptable if the show had an extended period of time to film on location at the Alcazar of Seville, but they were reportedly under a VERY tight, rushed shooting schedule. The result is what we got.

      Mihnea,

      Don’t forget about THE CHAIN!!!!1111!!!! That just RUINED Blackwater! (I’m not serious in case you’re wondering)

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    157. WeirwoodTreeHugger:
      What is it with people trying to police the conversation? Bringing up sexism, or any other political issue in no way violates the comment policy.

      Nobody is trying to make something political. The fact that opportunities in many aspects of society are given more frequently to white men than anyone else is political.Taking up for the status quo and trying to silence dissent is in and of itself just as agenda driven as discussing the issue.

      As other people said, there have been issues with the show and it’s portrayal of rape and the nudity parity problem. More female voices might help with that.Just having a lot of female characters isn’t sufficient.

      To those who protest “they just pick the best one for the job!” when someone speaks out about discriminatory hiring practices, you do realize you’re pretty much saying white men are inherently superior, right?Think about whether that’s what you truly believe. If you don’t believe that, you must agree that women and people of color are routinely passed over.Why would you want that to keep happening?

      Well said.

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    158. Rodrik the Reader:
      Ginevra,

      The Gorghan of old Gis notwithstanding, I’d be almost (almost!) willing to take one for the team if it means finding out R+L=? and all the rest.

      Totally. If I had my druthers, I’d take prophecies, theories, and mysteries anytime, but I just have to remember not to be too invested in how they work out.

      And LoL on your response regarding the Grand Maester of Something Other than Grammar.

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    159. Ginevra,

      The problem wasnt just the finale! The whole thing was a big hole! Nothing in that show made any sense! No explanation for anything they ever wrote! Just pure awful and insane writing, as if a bunch of kids were given legos to play with , no logical thinking! Worst TV show ever!!! Garbage!

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    160. Deesensfan,

      Pedro is definitely not white, but some said he wasn’t brown enough, which is ridiculous. He’s a Prince of Dorne, which is modelled after the Mediterranean areas of Europe, especially Spain. Here is the current royal family of Spain. Note the crowned princess and her sister princess with their naturally blonde hair!

      Edit: I should just let Rodrik make all of my comments.

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    161. Ginevra,

      100% agreed. The funny thing is, too, most of the mysteries on Lost were actually answered. Granted, a lot were not, or at least not directly, but most of them were, but that fact gets forgotten. Regardless, the direction on Lost was superb, especially the Jack Bender episodes.

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    162. SlayerNina,

      kill Stannis after being shot with a crossword because he refuse to do naked scenes.

      Oh I see you bought that bullshit myth started by tumblr that they killed off Ros because Esme Bianco refused to do nudity. Strange how Esme still regular tweets about how much see loves the show and how amazing she thinks it is. And tweets like this don’t seem to be from an actress who demanded to do no more nudity https://twitter.com/esmebianco/status/458056613547347968?lang=en

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    163. Ravyn,

      I don’t know if the Wall is going to fall just yet, but I think the White Walker assault will definitely start by the end of the season at least.

      Old Nan to Bran, Season 1 Episode 3

      “Oh, my sweet summer child, what do you know about fear? Fear is for the Winter, when the snows fall a hundred feet deep. Fear is for the long night, when the sun hides for years, and children are born, and live and die, all in darkness. That is the time for fear my little lord, when the white walkers move through the woods.

      Thousands of years ago, there came a night that lasted a generation. Kings froze to death in their castles, same as the shepherds in their huts. … In that darkness, the White Walkers came for the first time. They swept through cities and kingdoms, riding their dead horses, hunting with their packs of pale spiders, big as hounds …”

      So, big spiders invading Kings Landing? Spiders also mentioned in Hardhome.

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    164. Ginevra,

      Ha! I couldn’t do it without you, Ginevra. Re the royals you linked: the old gent with the cane looks like Charles Dance aged up 20 years. The lady in the purplish dress could be Indira Varma in 20 years. One of the little girls could be a kid Natalie Dormer.

      I guess the point is, with casting, unless a blonde Nordic or a sub-Saharan African is called for, there is enough makeup leeway to make just about anyone look like just about any ethnicity.

      In defense of the earlier Pedro kerfuffle, he was such an unknown, that some of the pics and footage of him suggested nothing more than generic LA actor. With makeup, wardrobe, and that accent, Pedro became Oberyn the Viper to a degree that astonished everyone.

      Gotta respect all involved. Pedro, Nina, D&D, wardrobe, makeup. The pros can see things we in the cheap seats sometimes can’t going in. Just a thing all of us need to keep in mind when Euron and company are cast this year.

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    165. The draft of ADWD had 2 battles in the ending, Meereen (cut from the show) and Winterfell (seen in 5×10). GRRM decided to delay one of them to the next book. But Anne Groell was the one to suggest to delay the other battle too. And GRRM followed that advice. That’s not a minor change. People who claim GRRM totally ignores her are clearly liars.

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    166. And here I thought some of the meltdowns over today’s Supreme Court ruling were unreal, to see such meltdowns over the announcement of directors for season 6???

      Wow.

      Just.

      Wow.

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    167. Ben:
      The draft of ADWD had 2 battles in the ending, Meereen (cut from the show) and Winterfell (seen in 5×10). GRRM decided to delay one of them to the next book. But Anne Groell was the one to suggest to delay the other battle too. And GRRM followed that advice. That’s not a minor change. People who claim GRRM totally ignores her are clearly liars.

      Don’t you think “liars” is a bit strong? How about “misunderstood”? That is how we play nice in the sandbox and share our toys.

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    168. Alright, everyone, let’s settle down.

      Do not feed trolls, just report them. I’ve cleaned up the thread a little.

      You are absolutely welcome to have politically-tinged discussions, just do so with a civil tone.

      Do not shut people down for broaching the subject of sexism and racism. That really won’t make people shut up about it. Seriously.

      Yes, the show could use a little more variety since I myself appreciate female directors and writers, but I don’t think the show goes out of its way to exclude them. I don’t think anyone is saying that, really. And some people need to stop insisting that all the writers are white because they aren’t- Dave Hill’s Asian. Just sayin.

      Okay, carry on.

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    169. Ben:
      The draft of ADWD had 2 battles in the ending, Meereen (cut from the show) and Winterfell (seen in 5×10). GRRM decided to delay one of them to the next book. But Anne Groell was the one to suggest to delay the other battle too. And GRRM followed that advice. That’s not a minor change. People who claim GRRM totally ignores her are clearly liars.

      No. They aren’t. If they used the modifier “totally” it was likely intended for emphasis or used as hyperbole.

      For those paying attention, the moving of the climactic battles wasn’t just a simple matter of cutting out the chapters and setting them aside. Groell herself said that including them would delay ADWD for months and months because of the additional editing required. Which I take to mean they weren’t finished yet.

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    170. Sue the Fury:
      Alright, everyone, let’s settle down.

      And some people need to stop insisting that all the writers are white because they aren’t- Dave Hill’s Asian. Just sayin.

      Okay, carry on.

      Nor should people assume that all the male directors are straight. I know Podeswa isn’t and he likely isn’t the only one.

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    171. Disappointed there’s no Neil Marshall but glad that Alex Graves ahsn’t popped up again.

      Longshot but I’m hoping that Mark Gatiss does a bit of writing as well as starring this year. Last season lacked the great conversations between characters that really make GoT. His touch would really improve this. Then again, I’ve been a League of Gentleman fan since it was a radio show!

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    172. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold up. HOLD UP! From Bender’s Reddit AMA:

      Were you able to read an advance copy of Book 6 of Game of Thrones to prepare for directing next season’s episodes?

      MrJackBender: 1 hour ago

      Yes.

      Is anyone discussing this?

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    173. Ginevra,
      What a lovely family. I hope they are as happy as they look. In my neck of the woods (world?) they’re not much publicized, so I’m afraid I know nothing about them.

      And not knowing anything about them, I instantly became very protective of them. They look so perfect, they might as well have been Rhaegar and Elia and their kids. I actually got a lump in my throat!

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    174. Rygritte:
      Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold up. HOLD UP! From Bender’s Reddit AMA:

      Is anyone discussing this?

      Do you have a link?!!!!!!!!

      I have a link: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3b8ro6/i_am_jack_bender_director_and_producer_of_shows/

      And I searched on “Book 6” to find the comment. I don’t know much about Reddit. Can we easily confirm this is *the* Bender?

      I’ve contacted the editors to alert them. Hopefully they can dig up more.

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    175. Rygritte,

      Whoa is right! Nice scoop–if this is for real. I imagine it’s not the whole book but just some completed chapters pertinent to the scenes Bender is shooting. I’m torn between wanting to know all about it and hoping I don’t–and that there are no leaks until the darn thing is published. I’m kind of enjoying us all being unsullied, and a part of me is even looking forward to seeing a GoT season in ignorant bliss. Ah, well, we shall see.

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    176. Ginevra,

      I see it in your link, 3rd comment from the top. The question was asked by mattakaye. Bender tweeted he was doing it. Look at the tweet feed on the right —->

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    177. Rodrik the Reader: I imagine it’s not the whole book but just some completed chapters pertinent to the scenes Bender is shooting.

      Probably, besides, GRRM has already released about a third of the book chapter by chapter.

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    178. Rodrik the Reader:
      Ginevra,
      What a lovely family. I hope they are as happy as they look. In my neck of the woods (world?) they’re not much publicized, so I’m afraid I know nothing about them.

      There was a scandal in the royal house, recently. The gentleman with the cane, who reminded you of Charles Dance, was king at that time (which was just in the last year or two) and was accused of some sort of corruption or other. He decided to abdicate in favor of his son because the son was not involved in the scandal, and because the then-prince and his wife are fairly popular, especially abroad. I saw them in the news when the scandal broke, which was about the same time there was still controversy over Pedro. But that’s about all I know. She was a TV news correspondent when she met the prince. They do seem happy, as far as I can tell.

      Nymeria Warrior Queen:
      And here I thought some of the meltdowns over today’s Supreme Court ruling were unreal, to see such meltdowns over the announcement of directors for season 6???

      My friend texted me with only emoticons this morning. I hate real smileys, but these were party hats, hearts, and cute little people – all men, but I didn’t notice that at the time. I was still completely confused as to the point of the text, being that there was no message. So I texted him back my favorite random emoticons – farm animals, a kraken, some fruit, some drinks, a bathtub. When I finally went on Facebook and saw the news, I realized he was celebrating the decision! Bless.

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    179. Show sycophants are WAY worse than book purists at this point. Truly insufferable, really.

      I myself see it as more about quality control, not faithfulness to the source material.

      People buy into groupthink and act superior from the comfy confines of supposed ‘majority opinion,’ as if it were gospel. Examples:

      -Books 4&5 are bad. NONSENSE! Feast is one of my favorites! (also I love Damphair)
      -Season 2 is the worst. NONSENSE! It’s one of the best. The show still had vitality and verve & great dialog.

      GoT is hugely popular but that is not analogous to quality– E.G., McDonalds food, Transformers movies, Republicans/Walmart.

      Season 5 had a drop in quality. D&D have total control over GoT and as per G.Lucas & the StarWars prequels / P.Jackson Hobbit films, a lack of checks&balances + hubris = a marked drop in quality.

      Plus, the rape hangup specific to the show notwithstanding, the disappointed feeling many had w/ season 5 is real thing. Deal with it (i.e., pull ur heads out of D&D’s butts).

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    180. Alex Graves screwed the pooch. Someone who truly would know told me he will never be invited back. I was told D&D did not like his magazine comments about a certain omitted character. Those comments were not sanctioned and were not agreed with by D&D and caused some behind the scenes friction with Martin that needed to be smoothed over. As a result Graves is done with this show.

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    181. GeekFurious:
      Great choices… but no women… disappointing.

      You’re disappointed that there’s no women. So weird.

      No visibly disabled people. Disappointing. Nobody from Japan. Disappointing. No mental health advocate disappointing.

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    182. No visibly disabled people. Disappointing. Nobody from Japan. Disappointing. No mental health advocate disappointing.

      Do visibly disabled people make up 50% of the population? Do Japanese? Mental – well, every person is his or her own kind of crazy, so I would say we have 100% mental case representation.

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    183. If people feel strongly about gender issues, as I’ve said before, I think they would do better to write to HBO direct or to the two Ds. If folk feel frustrated about something I guess they can get it “off their chest” here but I doubt HBO or the show-runners will take much notice of what is said here.

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    184. Oh for crying out loud… Why would you assume that a female perspective would be something of unicorns and rainbows – or very different (in a setting of GoT) from the male perspective? That’s just even worse than the male sexism – the so called equality champions, who judge a woman not by her work, but by how Twilight/Harry Potter like her work is.

      I am a female writer and if I had a chance to work on GoT I would do it the “menly” way. Medieval society was really cruel to women, I am glad this show does not skip that part, unlike many others.

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    185. Did I accidentally stumble upon the SJW corner of tumblr? Had to double check I wasn’t somehow on tumblr, or worse, the Mary Sue.

      Hiring a female director/writer for the sake of having a female director/writer is not how you go about improving the gender imbalance in the directing/writing department of this show, for crying out loud. Hire a woman because she’s talented, not because she’s a woman.

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    186. Glad to see Sapochnik and Podeswa back! I was looking forward to getting Neil Marshall back to direct more episodes. I wish Tim Van Patten also came back to direct! After all the is the one who started GoT…with the pilot episode!!!

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    187. Cyvasse GrandChampion,

      The problem with sycophants or fanboys of anything is that for some their emotional investment into that fantasy world is so engrossed that the moment they detach themselves to look upon it objectively, they only see the flaws. Whereas if one looks at the work critically they will call out the lows and worship the highs. In the end, its the latter that receives the richer experience.

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