Alfie Allen teases Theon’s “darker” season 6 plot and Kit Harington reiterates, “I’m really dead. I’m not coming back”

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Here are two new Game of Thrones interviews to tide you over! We have Alfie Allen talking about Theon’s psychology next season and promising a “darker” storyline. We also have Kit Harington stating once again that he’s not returning to Game of Thrones.

In an interview with The West Australian division of Yahoo News, Allen discusses how Theon’s regret for betraying Robb and his continued affinity for the Starks factors into his motivation next season.

“He’s worried about [Sansa] being in danger as much as himself. He definitely has some sort of link there still in his mind, some sort of connection there, and I think obviously that part of him that is Theon feels he needs to make good on the bad things that he’s done,” Allen said.

Though he remains tight-lipped about actual plot developments, Allen did say his storyline “might get darker but it will still be just as interesting, without a doubt.”

As for his character, the actor says, “I think he’s one of the most human characters on the show in the fact that he makes mistakes all the time and that’s a universal theme in anyone’s life. We all make mistakes.” Allen adds, “I personally don’t see the choices that he makes as evil, I just see them as seriously misguided.”


UntitleditDuring an interview with The Guardian about his new play, Doctor Faustus, Kit Harington assured us, yet again, that Jon Snow is pushing up daisies. “I’m really dead. I’m not coming back,” he said.

After so many months of Jon Snow questions, he agreed with interviewer Nick Curtis that his Game of Thrones experience has given him a lot in common with his character, Doctor Faustus, “a man completely trapped in his own head.”

Discussing his reported exit from GoT, Harington says, “Thrones is an amazing thing, and is going to continue to be incredible – so it is a loss not being there, in the circus. It has had an amazing impact on my life. I wouldn’t be in this, or getting a lot of the offers I have, were it not for Thrones.”

He admitted another benefit of being on Thrones was meeting his girlfriend Rose Leslie. “Yeah, it was a lovely thing: me and Rose [Leslie] met in season two. Ygritte’s death on set was very emotional: I was losing my very best friend and girlfriend on the show and I was coming back next year. The character was in loss and so was I.”

Doctor Faustus opens in April at London’s Duke of Yorks Theatre.

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    1. Aw Kit, you poor bugger. Not long to go now.

      PS very happy for him and Rose. That’s the first time I’ve seen him be open about it. The seem to be a low key, private couple. And gorgeous to boot.

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    2. Because if there’s one thing I’ve been thinking about Theon’s storyline this whole time it’s, “A little too light for this show – needs to be darker.”

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    3. Morgoth:
      They are going to keep playing the “Jon Snow is dead, for real you guise” schtick to the bitter end, eh?

      Red Carpet premiere is on the 10th. Just 14 more days. Looking forward to hearing reports from that.

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    4. You know I am actually starting to be a little afraid he is telling the truth. Perhaps the scenes he was seen filming is part of some vision of Brans. Perhaps “what should have been”? I dunno

      It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to still be insisting he isnt coming back in order to preserve the shock value of when he does, if basically everyone in the fandom believes he is coming back anyway. The “lots of offers” is troubling too.

      Whatever goes down I have a really horrible feeling deep in my waters that I am not going to like it at all

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    5. I don’t know now, what if he stays dead and doesn’t end up being resurrected at all and all of this is just a joke and that leaked set photo was a joke….

      Lol, just kidding. It’s going to happen, and you know that we know, Kit!

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    6. Whats darker than losing his tackle?

      On the Snowy side…. I do believe he is coming back (definitely in the books) However on the show….that bit of doubt sneaks in when I read an interview like this.

      Don’t get me wrong, I love this site, the community and editors. But how reliable were the sources that provided the Jon snow info? Were the sightings genuine? Was the photo on Daily mail genuine? Just these little doubts are adding up.

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    7. Jack Bauer 24:
      Every time I read one of these Kit interviews I wonder…

      lool..me too..then I tell myself..”he’s an actor, if he is making me second guess myself then he is doing something right…”

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    8. TheSnarkAtWinterfell:
      You know I am actually starting to be a little afraid he is telling the truth. Perhaps the scenes he was seen filming is part of some vision of Brans. Perhaps “what should have been”? I dunno

      It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to still be insisting he isnt coming back in order to preserve the shock value of when he does, if basically everyone in the fandom believes he is coming back anyway. The “lots of offers” is troubling too.

      Whatever goes down I have a really horrible feeling deep in my waters that I am not going to like it at all

      I was going to delete my comment because after reading your comment, it got me thinking even more about it. He might actually be telling the truth….

      Honestly, I don’t know anymore lol. Not too long of a wait now anyways.

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    9. They know damn well that a lot of the online fans believe he is coming back. If they convince 5% of them otherwise by doing this, they’re doing their job.

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    10. Theon’s story is going to get darker? Ummm…. I thought it was already the darkest it could possibly be!

      As for Jon Snow and Kit Harington, one of the good things by the end of April is that these types of questions in the interview will no longer be happening. That’s something I am eagerly looking forward to!

      It’s lovely that Kit met Rose Leslie on the GoT set! 🙂

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    11. July: Kit in Belfast, September: Kit in Belfast, October: Kit in Belfast with Iwan Rheon, November: Kit in Titanic Studios (again), December: Kit in Belfast, (GoT party with cast mates) etc, etc… 🙂 Nice try (again), Kit!!

      Can’t wait for Faustus (May for me) and happy for Rose and him!! 🙂

      Alfie/Theon great!!

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    12. Think of the cumulative acres of free time and intellectual energy that fans of the series will suddenly have in about a month, when we no longer have to reiterate the same arguments about whether or not Kit is lying. (Or desperately reading other people’s arguments while lurking relatively silently on this site, in my case….)

      Seriously, though, it’s not like he can suddenly change course now and say, “Just kidding, Jon Snow is totally coming back.”

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    13. Some people are so easily swayed by mere words of an actor who’s paid to pretend and is on record saying he likes deceiving in interviews, to the point they start doubting the staightforward overhwelming evidence and making illogical or contradictory claims. Actions matter, not words…Can’t wait until this ends in a few weeks, should be a good lesson in how not to be naive.

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    14. I believe Jon Snow will be resurrected his season, but he dies again at the end of season 6!! Kit Harington is adamant about him being finished with GoT! He says in the interview he starts filming his movie The Death and Life of John F. Donovan right after he finishes his play! And back in October mayb, WOTW said on their site that “a Stark we don’t expect” dies in the battle in season 6! Jon Snow was certainly an unexpected Stark at the time, via the infamous pic that was leaked! I believe the resurrected Jon Stark dies again at the end of season 6! Mayb for good? But also believe mayb to sit out season 7, only to be resurrected again in season 8 as AZOR AHAI!! Mayb D&D is allowing Kit to have a break to make a movie, but also fits into their divergence from the book?! I am starting to believe Kit when he says he is finished filming GoT, at least for a while?! Just a thought!!

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    15. Nathanbc22,

      Real or not the pics don’t provide the context of what they are in the story. As I said above, it all could be part of a vision of Brans for all anyone knows. It appears Bran will be having a lot more of those this season and there will be the Tower of Joy scene so I dont think its beyond the realm of possibility, whatever he was filming could be a kind of House of Undying style thing.

      As someone else said, not long now and we will know the truth but geez I am starting to feel very uneasy :/

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    16. He is coming back guys. There is a certain flashback that we know is happening which would be pointless if he was dead permanently.

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    17. From Alfie’s interview:

      “He’s worried about [Sansa] being in danger as much as himself. He definitely has some sort of link there still in his mind, some sort of connection there, and I think obviously that part of him that is Theon feels he needs to make good on the bad things that he’s done,” Allen said.

      I think they split up to prevent her being caught by the Boltons again.

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    18. Well has anyone considered that someone else inhabits JS body, Rhaegar perhaps returned from the Shadowlands or many fan theories that Bran wargs and controls the body, thereby when Kit says Jon doesn’t return, he technically is being truthful.

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    19. Maybe Alfie is being literal and the actual scenes will be lacking in light. Kind of like the House of Black and White.

      If not I cannot imagine how his story could get darker.

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    20. Oh, come on, people…

      Let’s sum up the facts. We have the leaked pic of Kit in the set. We have the reports of him constantly flying to and from Belfast during the shooting. We have reports from Watchers on The Wall and Los 7 Reinos, the two most reliable sources of spoilers out there of at least three scenes: the big battle, one scene with Jon convincing the wildlings to join his cause and one scene with Sansa, Ramsay, Littlefinger and Wun Wun in Winterfell.

      And let’s not forget: the poster with Jon’s bleeding face (hardly ever a show has promoted its new season with the face of a dead character), the constant presence of Jon’s body in the trailer, the abscense of a beautiful death poster for Jon, the fact that the Tower of Joy flashback is being included (totally pointless if Jon is truly dead)… I could go on and go on.

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    21. We had the same discussion about basically the same sounding interview a week ago. Nothing has changed in this regard. He keeps doing his job and we’re just going around in circles. The same people voice their doubts again, the same people clear those doubts. It’s like groundhog day. Thankfully soon we won’t have to endure this farce anymore.

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    22. BeautyBrienne:
      Maybe Alfie is being literal and the actual scenes will be lacking in light. Kind of like the House of Black and White.

      If not I cannot imagine how his story could get darker.

      Two words. Euron Greyjoy.

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    23. Wish I had the strength to stay off GOT sites until April 24, because this pre-season has become headscratchingly silly.

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    24. Theon’s storyline is the darkest one … the only darker thing left is death. But I hope Theon doesn’t die yet.
      Unless … Euron is really a bad man. Don’t tell me Theon will replace Damphair’s storyline about his childhood with Euron.

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    25. What if Kit is not really lying. Maybe Jon Snow gets brought back (like everyone believes) but then eventually meets his demise (again) by the end of the season. Not sure what sort of events would have to unfold for that to happen, but I am just throwing it out there.

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    26. Theon is

      going to Volantis with Yara and Greyjoy fleet. I don’t see him covering such distance just to die. Darker doesn’t have to mean death.

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    27. Good job Kit, he is already causing doubt within watchers on the wall. I have no doubt the other viewers who have watched his interviews probably think he won’t be coming back, well most of them.
      Everyone is so divided, Fun, fun 😀

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    28. Let him die so i may rest hoping for his comeback. From now on I will not pick a character to look forward but just watch the movie wholly. Less ache.

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    29. You know, I didn’t think the writer’s would go there but now I am starting to thing they could go the necrophilia route.
      Hear me out. We saw Melisandre stripping in the trailer. If Jon is still warm (ha), who is to say she doesn’t have sex with his corpse to produce another “shadow” spawn that inhabits Jon’s body? Okay…that is a far, far stretch even for this show but if she realizes he is the real “Lord of Light”, she would do anything to do right by her God. She didn’t exactly look like the seductress when removing her clothes, she looked a bit conflicted.
      There has to be something behind Kit’s “I’m (Jon’s) not coming back”.
      Maybe Jon as we know him isn’t.
      Yeah…grasping at straws but I wouldn’t put it past this show to some necro action.

      As for Theon, I do like the character and completely sympathize with what he has gone through but come on. Theon has done some downright horrible things. Evil things. His continued torture has been horrible and heartbreaking but he is far from an innocent. I can’t imagine how it can get any darker for him but I have a feeling we may not have him around past this season.

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    30. I wonder which will end up being more annoying: this off-season’s, “So, really, Kit, is Jon dead?” questions, or next off-season’s, “So, Kit, was it hard having to lie about Jon’s resurrection?”

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    31. Ashley,

      Yeah because such a thing would make the least bit of sense…You can argue D+D aren’t great writers but damn they’re not hacks. Also the ultimate fates of the main characters will match Martin’s vision. D+D will not alter key elements like they said.

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    32. Morgoth,

      They have put too much time and effort into it to just give up the act now. Besides, look at all of the doubt creeping into the comments here. Apparently it is working.

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    33. Ashley,

      Kit starts filming his new movie right after his play ends! So when will he have time to film GoT?! The movie shoot is supposed to take 6 months according to the director!! I am beginning to think he won’t be back for season 7, maybe season 8 tho?!

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    34. Rella,

      The Death and Life of John F.Donovan is shooting this Spring, GOT usually starts filming in late July, and obviously not all of the actors start filming then, the schedules are stretched over to December.

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    35. Jon Snow is the Schrodinger’s cat of Game of Thrones.
      But seriously: Kit’s answers are always the same. What is surprising to me is the fact that questions remain the same, too. Why?
      Imagine you’re a journalist and you’re about to do an interview with the actor that plays an iconic character on an iconic TV show.
      Even if you’re not a fan, you must be professional enough to know already about the leaked photo and other appearances on set, and the thousands of fans eager for more information. It’s all over the net! But not one reporter confronts him with this information. No one ever asks him something obvious like ‘OK, you’re dead, fine, so that leaked photo is just a flashback scene, right?’
      That’s because journalists are playing this game, too.
      I bet every interview with Kit stars with some off-the-record conversation…

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    36. If Kit is actually causing doubts with WATCHERS OF THE WALL followers, then well, looks like he’s done his job. Whatever, this is just better for the show and the surprise will be even bigger when he comes back.

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    37. From a narrative point of view it just does not make sense to kill Jon off for good at this point. He is the only one who actively fights the White Walker threat and who has a chance to unite the realm against them. If he is gone, who will even care about what’s happening at the Wall and beyond? Sam and Bran are the only other main characters who know what’s going on there and though I think both will have a part to play in the final war, none of them is in a position to make the rest of Westeros aware of this threat or to actively fight the WW. With Jon dead the whole Night’s Watch storyline (as well as the upcoming ToJ revelation, if it is what we think it is) would have been pointless at the end.

      You could compare it to Dany: Just imagine she would be killed next season by the Dothraki without ever reaching Westeros. What would have been the point of her storyline? If she has no role to play in the endgame (or is indirectly influencing it through repercussions of her actions), why include her as one of the main characters?

      I think this is a big problem with the ASOIAF series: It lives from the twists and turns and unexpected deaths, but the story got longer than GRRM originally had planned, so he was running out of main characters that he can use for these type of things after ASOS. That’s probably why the universe got bigger and bigger with so many new (POV) characters. But it doesn’t work well anymore, because the audience just does not care for figures like Quentyn, Victarion or JonCon (who are not even important enough for the story to be incluced in the show) in the same way it does for characters like Jon, Tyrion, Arya or Dany, who have been there from the start. But these people still have a part to play when it comes to the endgame, so it’s too early to kill them off and GRRM was running out of good “cannon fodder” for some shock value in AFFC/ADWD. I guess that’s why he included the whole Quentyn storyline as well as Jon’s “death”.

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    38. Rella,

      No. There is no point to kill Jon right after he gets resurrected. Jon will make it to the end. Plus both Kit and Carice filmed the movie Brimestone which started filming in June and they are both going to be in S6. Most of the Jon scenes have always been done later in the filming process anyway. Stop worrying.

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    39. Maybe GRRM and D&D are just trolling us all.
      I mean this is the most depressing show/book series and a returning Jon Snow is pretty much what every fan would expect to happen. George and the showrunners know that.

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    40. Marco,

      That’s exactly it. The interviews are staged, especially the written ones. Journalists get a list of Qs they can’t ask beforehand and most of the answers are scripted. That’s why we’re getting the same question and answer over and over again. Gotta admire the dedication to the cause, no side has cracked.

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    41. phantomstrife,

      The film is NOT shooting this Spring!!! They didn’t even finish casting it until February!! Kit has been in rehearsals for Dr. Faustus since beginning of March and has been around London since January! Other actors in the cast of his movie have been shooting other things-Jessica Chastain, Bella Thorne….they just cast Natalie Portman and Nicholas Hoult this past February! And Xavier Dolan, the director, has said it won’t start shooting until Fall and would take 6 months! Google the movie and you can read more about when filming begins and how long it will take! With the cast of this movie, doesn’t seem like it will be an Indie film tho?!

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    42. I read this site every day but never post comments and I have to say it’s almost insulting to think die hard nerds like me would think that Jon isn’t coming back given all the shooting evidence & his entire purpose throughout the show and books.

      If you think Jon isn’t coming back you haven’t been paying attention.

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    43. TheSnarkAtWinterfell,

      I’m kinda with you. It sure sounds like he’s done with the show. But he has so much damn plot armor I don’t see how Martin gets away with killing him. My only guess is that Jon Snow returns, but in a different body which would require a different actor, someone we hadn’t heard of being cast. But that’s going to be rough for a TV audience to accept. Book readers, not so much.

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    44. HotPinkLipstick and others potentially playing the Watchers drinking game right now – you must be rip-roaring drunk reading this thread.

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    45. When people who run this site don’t buy the “Jon Snow is dead and not coming back” line, then it’s pretty safe to assume he will be back. Sue and co. probably know alot more spoilery info than gets published here, keep in mind. Not to mention that photo of Kit in Stark armor at Saintfield. Perhaps when he gets resurrected he will no longer be the Jon Snow character, but Kit is going to be on the show, I’m 99% sure on that.

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    46. Mag:
      Theon’s storyline is the darkest one … the only darker thing left is death. But I hope Theon doesn’t die yet.
      Unless … Euron is really a bad man. Don’t tell me Theon will replace Damphair’s storyline about his childhood with Euron.

      For me, even Death is much lighter storyline compared to his right now, he’s begged for death at season 3 already. It will be devastating, but yeah, i have this strong feeling Theon won’t be in the next season, all of this sudden exposure towards Alfie (he didn’t has many interviews before) and Theon (usually, they don’t include much Theon in the trailer, now he included twice) just gave me hints

      And about…

      Theon will go to Volantis, i’m not really sure about this, because there’s no Alfie’s sighting beside in Belfast or Northern Ireland, unless they shoot Volantis Scene in Belfast, which i’m not sure either

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    47. Darjan,

      he is also involved in a little event called/nicknamed The battle of the bastards, but obviously it must be ramsay and some other bastard called Gendry.

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    48. phantomstrife,
      Great female cast … Good for Kit… I’m sure they will make it work with GOT’s schedule. It won’t be the first time.
      There is no doubt in my mind that Jon will be resurrected and fight in the war against the others. I think Kit is tired about the questions about Jon Snow and directly says I’m gone. Look his face in this interview in 5:32.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXdd13k2UVI
      In EW interviews, D&D also expressed how annoyed they were with the leaked photo and video, so they are obviously trying to generate doubt.

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    49. Matthew The Dragon knight,

      The chaos was enjoyable last year, now it’s just tiring.
      Too bad logic hasn’t been a strong point of this comment board as of late, not when it comes to this Jon issue at least.

      Tower of Joy is in season 6, that ALONE settles the issue. And there’s been way more to settle it for good. But it looks like tinfoil and conspiracy theories are just too strong to pass up.

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    50. In all honesty, the main reason I don’t doubt that Jon is coming back is that they didn’t have massive send-off parties for Kit, and lengthy mournful interviews about how much everyone will miss him and he himself answering all sorts of things about his time on set.

      Hell, can we please get some light for Theon? Enough dark! Alfie is so good at it that I feel like I need a hot shower and painkillers after each of his scenes.

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    51. phantomstrife,

      Regarding Theon and Yara…

      going to Volantis. So we expect them to stay there and wait for Dany? Or to head to Mereen? From the spoilers, we got that Dany and Drogon burn the tent in episode 4, most likely conquering the Dothraki at that point. Then we have spoilers of a Mereen battle in episode 10. So what does Dany do inbetween that time? Could she possibly head to Volantis from Vaes Dothrak before returning to Meereen? That seems like a big distance, but I can’t figure out what she’ll be doing episodes 5-9. And I wonder if the big Mereen battle with be won by her new Dothraki force or Dothraki plus iron born.

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    52. Don’t know a percentage, but a lot of fans try to remain Unsullied about the show season to season. They avoid spoilers. They don’t read news sites. Never mind the folks just now binge watching the show. So I can see still saying “I’m not coming back” in official channels.

      I also had a moment of unease with this latest comment too. But setting aside set photos and such, while D&D may trip up on occasion as writers, they are not hacks. There’s too much foreshadowing with his past. A few decisions that only make sense if Jon comes back. Too much Hero’s Journey narrative invested in him: http://www.thewritersjourney.com/hero's_journey.htm

      Yup, I’d say we’re due for some battling through and returning from the dark place for a few characters.

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    53. Pigeon:
      In all honesty, the main reason I don’t doubt that Jon is coming back is that they didn’t have massive send-off parties for Kit, and lengthy mournful interviews about how much everyone will miss him and he himself answering all sorts of things about his time on set.

      Don’t forget the glaring lack of a Beautiful Death poster, which are sanctioned. They highlight key deaths. If Jon dying (and staying dead) isn’t key, none of them are.

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    54. D’Arcy,

      They attach his weener again with painful blood magic, but when it’s all over Theon is over the moon about it! – And then it’s getting ripped off again by LSH…

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    55. Rella: The film is NOT shooting this Spring!!! They didn’t even finish casting it until February!! Kit has been in rehearsals for Dr. Faustus since beginning of March and has been around London since January! Other actors in the cast of his movie have been shooting other things-Jessica Chastain, Bella Thorne….they just cast Natalie Portman and Nicholas Hoult this past February! And Xavier Dolan, the director, has said it won’t start shooting until Fall and would take 6 months! Google the movie and you can read more about when filming begins and how long it will take! With the cast of this movie, doesn’t seem like it will be an Indie film tho?!

      GoT actors dont actually shoot that much individually during the 6 months of shooting. It depends a lot on what type of scenes they are doing, if they are doing indoor dialog scenes then they can shoot their whole arc for the season very quickly. As far as I can recall some of the actors like Sophie Turner, Peter Dinklage and Lena Headey properly only spent a few days on set to film their whole season.

      Kit has been on set a lot for season 6, but that is partly because he was doing a lot of action scenes which takes a long time to film. Perhaps in the 7th season he will not do a lot of action scenes, especially with Dany invading Westeros, that will likely be the big action piece for next season.
      In any event it does seem like this movie keeps on getting delayed quite a lot.

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    56. Rella:

      “a Stark we don’t expect” dies in the battle in season 6!

      There was that rumor…

      On top of the wildlings, another rumor is reporting that Snow will get the help of his uncle, Benjen Stark (Joesph Mawle). This rumor added that Benjen, who was last seen in season one after heading north of the wall, will not survive the battle.

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    57. I’ll say this. I believe he will remain on the show. I don’t think for a second he is gone for good. BUT, I’m starting to lean towards it not being how anyone expects. I don’t know what exactly that means either. But I no longer am confident that it will be a simple Melisandre resurrection, bam, boom, over. To steal a line from the books author, this right here might very well be “bittersweet”. Maisie Williams is a very good troll. But maybe she was being very truthful when she said in that one interview “…I can’t say he’s going to be alive. It’s a great twist though…” Whatever that means. I no longer think it’s as simple as saying, no Kit technically isn’t lying because “Jon Snow” is dead but “Jon Stark/Targaryen” lives. I don’t think so anymore. I 100% believe he’ll be back and part of the show until it ends…but as what? We’ll see.

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    58. There is a difference between saying he is dead and saying I won’t come back ….and he keeps repeating it thoudsnd timed….I just wish he just say that he is dead and stop saying he won’t come back again and again…because he will be comimg back ..and because of this interviews I sometimes wish he just stays dead just out of irritation of the same reapeated interviews every week ..

      But on another note iam happy about him and rose… I thought they were off during season 4

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    59. dragonbringer,

      In a previous interview, he did say “I don’t currently have a contract with Game of Thrones”. That was what made me think he’s not lying to keep a secret. But we’ll see.

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    60. Ravyn,

      Exactly …these comments must make even people who know this cliffhanger for five years and sure of his return have a mild doubt. ..I can’t wonder show only watcherd must feel..
      Let’s just hope next time this month this thing is settled and move on with other characters and story lines…
      After all I can’t think if one person who will notbe fed up with this questions be it cast and crew who gets constantly asked the same thing every week or us the readers who get to read the same interviews ..
      I just wonder only one thing what will be kit’s response for comments like I won’t be back ,iam done with the show,I don’t have contract,my contract is finished once he comes back ….hopefully they leave him alone and focus on the episodes

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    61. kells,

      Just had a thought. That “something” could be that Kit is able to only NOW truthfully say that Jon’s dead and “not coming back”, is done with the show, etc IF he filmed for season 6 but dies at the end of it. Think about it, when we last saw Jon he was indeed dead so no lies there. So say then he goes on to film for season 6 (Kit goes quiet for that period of time I think) where he dies for good at the end of the battle or something. So now he is truthfully able to say he’s dead, done with the show and not coming back 🙁

      Because it doesn’t sit right that he would use these exact words over and over again, especially so close to the season premier. Maybe it is done, I wouldn’t know as I’ve never been part of a fandom for a show like this until now. We know there’s a “twist” though….this could be what. It allows for his resurrection, finding out who mom and dad are, being a hero in taking back the North for the Starks, and if not outright defeating the WW then perhaps he mentors someone else. And it follows the theme of GRRM dark and bitter tale of Valar morghulis.

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    62. He’s lying. It’s his job to lie. This isn’t going to be some ‘Weekend At Bernie’s’ situation. He will be resurrected. If he comes back as anyone but Jon, then GRRM completely fucked up. He’ll be changed, perhaps more vicious and single minded, but he’ll still be Jon.

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    63. Rella,

      Yes and yes! But probably no to the comes back from death a 2nd time because that would be kind of redundant. Although I love the thought of Jon being Azor Ahai. Oh heck, maybe they will have him resurrected a 2nd time cause why else did they foreshadow by having a character that was brought back 6 times right? I do remember one interview where Kit said Thrones would be part of his life until he’s in his 30’s…..

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    64. kells,

      Yeah, right! Melisandre conceives a shadow baby from Jon Snow’s cold dead bled out corpse. Prime time necrophilia with theme music consisting of the last lines of the Rolling Stones’ “Start It Up.” Not even HBO will go that far.
      If you think Sansa’s wedding night created controversy, hold on to your dire wolf if this scene plays out as you suggest!!!!

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    65. caliopesnow:
      July: Kit in Belfast, September: Kit in Belfast, October: Kit in Belfast with Iwan Rheon, November: Kit in Titanic Studios (again), December: Kit in Belfast, (GoT party with cast mates) etc, etc… Nice try (again), Kit!!

      Can’t wait for Faustus (May for me) and happy for Rose and him!!

      Alfie/Theon great!!

      People, there are MANY spoilers from this site and others of Kit filming multiple times last year; so yea, the “mummer’s farce” will soon be over, either at the end of episode 1 or in episode 2, at the latest.

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    66. Matthew The Dragon knight,

      Ya never know, Melisandre certainly has the look of one about to mount something/someone not entirely pleasant. A corpse would definitely fit with her look of dread haha. But surely a baby could never be the result of such an act, shadow-type or otherwise.

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    67. But we already saw Jon in trailer. ..long curly hair……and besides we also know wildlings vs Boltons is happening …so y would wildlings fight Boltons unless Jon is leading them ….or have convinced them. ….to fight against Boltons …..I think it’s just the case of suprising viewers who aren’t perhaps not reading spoilers , filming news trailer breakdowns etc….I believe that’s a lot of people. …..maybe kit snow will come out and apologise and explain his dilemma. ..Once he is ressuracted…..He should be praised for keeping the suspense alive for so long ….

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    68. pras,

      A few of us have stated up thread an idea of how he can be back this season and at the same time not lying when says he’s dead and done with show.

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    69. Good lord, “darker”?? Theon’s been broken physically and mentally, what more can they possibly do to him? Yeesh. I was hoping that after Theon

      reunites with Yara and they deal with the Kingsmoot & Euron, their little adventure to Essos would allow Theon a chance to start healing.

      But darker makes me fear Theon is too far gone and Yara will put him out of his misery.

      phantomstrife:
      We had the same discussion about basically the same sounding interview a week ago. Nothing has changed in this regard. He keeps doing his job and we’re just going around in circles. The same people voice their doubts again, the same people clear those doubts. It’s like groundhog day. Thankfully soon we won’t have to endure this farce anymore.

      Well said. I just hope this can all be put to rest in 4 weeks and that D&D don’t drag it out beyond that – for everyone’s sake.

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    70. Help! Another stupid q from a relatively new member: For some reason all of a sudden I can’t get my iPad to show spoilers. Anyone knows what to do? Usually I just click on the grey spoiler tag but nothing happens except my iPad wanting to copy or define. Grrr.

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    71. ygritte,

      Hopefully it’s Yara welcoming him back with appropriate Greyjoy words. Parts of me fears she’s about to do a mercy kill. Which will have me wither and die as well.

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    72. Singedbylife,

      Don’t know. Never had an ipad. Try rebooting, or click at top to show all spoilers instead? My cell phone does something similar, hides the keyboard (the design of which isn’t easy for adult sized fingers to type quickly and accurately), no longer capitalizes or spell checks (only when I’m texting and don’t want it to) and takes forever to load these pages. So glad my laptop is up and running again.

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    73. pras,

      That was not Jon in the trailer. James Hibberd confirmed that that was not Jon/Kit. And thanks to the new EW magazine we know that James was actually at the battle, so he would know.

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    74. Rella,

      Even if the film starts shooting in June, he will still have plenty of time for GOT which films until December. He did Brimstone right before GOT last year, or even during GOT I believe. Schedules are flexible and worked around. What you should note is that he’s got no projects lined up for September-December window, just like last year.

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    75. Singedbylife,

      If it’s a mercy kill would it be because he has a mortal injury related to the fall, or perhaps a fight with Ramsey’s men before he escapes or is rescued? Would this Euron character want him dead? Either way, we know it won’t be a good season for him. I don’t think they’re tears of joy 🙁

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    76. BunBunStark,
      Singedbylife,
      I have been thinking for a time that if DnD are comfortable with shifting Theon and Yara to an entirely different context – and the plot they are in the books is dead – then it’s highly possible these characters are not long for the world of the living. Book and show.

      Theon’s redemption: as pathetic and ineffective as the rest of his life?

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    77. El-Bobbie,

      James Hibberd/EW once belonged to a company which owns HBO, they are still HBO’s mouthpieces. They will say whatever HBO wants. Joanna Robinson from VF, the first one to claim Jon’s coming back even before the evidence started piling up, called Hibberd out on his bullshit.

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    78. It’s a trade-off really. EW gets the exclusive scoop, cool interviews and invitation to the premiere and sets, in turn they play into the hands of HBO’s marketing team.

      For now, the biggest indicator for Jon to be in season 7, apart from the actor’s empty schedule in fall/winter, is the Jon hair. If he was no longer contractually obligated he’d have had his hair cut, get a buzzcut or even become a skinhead to minimize the association with the character while doing and promoting other works. He’s not fond of the hair as it is now per his own admission.

      As for the Greyjoys. David and Dan are doing away with their beloved Ramsay this season but gaining Ramsay 2.0 in Euron. Should be fun.

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    79. Well, if Theon is going to die and he probably is, I hope he gets a few more good scenes at least. Seems like an awful waste of one of the best actors the has but such is the Game of Thrones. I read in one of the many recent Alfie interviews that Euron and Yara are going to steal the show quote unquote GQ: So have you seen any of Season 6 yet? “I’ve seen the scenes in which I’m in but nothing else really. But I can tell you that there’s going to be a lot more Greyjoy action going on. Pilou Asbæk, who plays my uncle, and Gemma Whelan, who plays my sister, steal the show. They’re pretty amazing in it, both of them. I can’t wait for people to see it.”

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    80. Think Jon Snow is definitely dead. Jon Stark/Jon Targaryan now that’s an entirely different matter. And it will fit perfectly with the introduction of the Tower of Joy flash back. Why else spend screen time on Jon’s heritage?

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    81. I can’t sleep so I just clicked and read the KH interview and came across this quote:

      “I like doing anguish, deep depression and darkness. I don’t know why, maybe that’s who I am. Nothing interests me less than doing a romantic comedy.”

      🙁 Don’t know what to make of that. I just want to give him a hug. And pick his brain lol. I dunno, there’s just something enigmatic about the man.

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    82. phantomstrife: The chaos was enjoyable last year, now it’s just tiring.

      That is always the problem with this type of situation. At some point people will just get frustrated. I really hope this resurrection takes place in the first or second episode, dragging it out any longer will just make people more fatigued.

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    83. harlequeen,

      But Hibberd has never tried to imply that Jon Snow is dead like the cast and HBO has. He’s only reported what the cast has said. If anything he’s been neutral to slightly skeptical. There’s no reason for him to point out that the guy from the trailer isn’t Jon, he could’ve just said nothing.

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    84. A couple of thoughts without evidence, just speculating.

      Theon’s storyline getting darker could imply he actively does bad things. Betraying Robb and the Starks was bad, but he was torn between them and his family. Maybe this time he betrays his real family and rats out Yara to Euron? [haven’t we heard rumors that one of Theon/Yara dies this season?]
      What I would absolutely love but I guess they can’t without ignoring the books is if they were to give Euron’s future story to Theon. Theon has been broken by Ramsay, and him turning into a mad villain like Ramsay might make for a good tv arc?
      About Jon Snow: What if the marriage that Ice Maul crashes is the one of Rhaegar and Lyanna and the battle of the bastards is a Bran vision? Then the season would end with Jon being dead, Ramsay (and Roose?) still in charge and the White Walkers breaking the wall. It would fit with the D&D interview of not spoiling TWoW as well?

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    85. D’Arcy:
      A darker Theon storyline? I mean, how much darker can you get?

      My thoughts exactly.

      As for Jon Snow… well, just to differ, to hell with Jon Snow. Bring Ygritte back!

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    86. alienarea,

      I have a hard time seeing it, as in believing it. He needs a long time, I think, to get back to being able to be fierce and lethal. But with a little help from the gods, who knows? We know that A can change into anything. And he could pull it off but still, it seems unlikely imo.

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    87. Couldn’t it also be the case that John Snow is not coming back THIS season, but next season? Independent of whether as Snow, Stark, or Stark/Targaryen. Maybe Davos smuggles his body somewhere and keeps it safe – until some plan is realized how to get him back after Melisandre failed. This would certainly fit with comments D&D made shortly after the season 5 finale aired and said: Jon will not come back “next” season, but left unanswered the question about season 7.

      Also, I did not see the picture in Stark armour and do not want to see it as spoilers are one thing – but to spoil the whole season is just pointless (and I sometimes wished people used spoiler tags for sharing this info over and over again so that even I read it although I actively tried to avoid it but, of course, still like discussing and reading comments).

      Aside from that, the picture could then just represent one of Bran’s visions. I know some people think it is naive to in any way believe Kit’s utterances. Yet, a ressurection in season 7 could well be possible.

      Another question, is there any info about Dan West? The best friend and flatmate of Kit who wrote three scripts with Kit and sold already two of them? Have found no info yet. Thx!

      PS: Love speculation – hope I’m wrong concerning my JS conjecture.

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    88. Jack Bauer 24: Red Carpet premiere is on the 10th. Just 14 more days. Looking forward to hearing reports from that.

      dont think that he is coming back in the first episode, because after the premiere, there will probably be spoilers spread around everywhere. They will still continue to say he is dead at the premiere.

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    89. El-Bobbie,

      If asked to do damage control by HBO, he’d do it. How would he know it’s not Jon on the white horse? Someone told him, either lied to him or told the truth but asked to claim otherwise but not explicitly. It really doesn’t matter though whether or not it’s Jon. We know he’s a central part of the battle. It’s just suspicious that this particular shot was chosen and is being repeated in promos. Either there’s some particular significance to it or it’s just a cool shot of the carnage.

      alienarea,

      The supposed vision of a wedding is showing FUTURE not past. A possible future event between two characters whose wedding would break the internet. First of all, it’s likely total BS, random comment on a fan site, really? Second of all, who says Rhaegar and Lyanna ever married? It’s a mystery. Third of all, their marriage wouldn’t be a big deal to the show-only watchers. Fourth of all, Jon is fighting Ramsay in the Battle of the Bastards as the sequence was labelled by the extras on the set.

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    90. alienarea:

      AboutJon Snow: What if the marriage that Ice Maul crashes is the one of Rhaegar and Lyanna and the battle of the bastards is a Bran vision? Then the season would end with Jon being dead, Ramsay (and Roose?) still in charge and the White Walkers breaking the wall. It would fit with the D&D interview of not spoiling TWoW as well?

      Do you really think that HBO would spend millions of dollars, shooting the biggest battle ever seen on this show, just to tell us that this entire battle was a Bran vision??
      Some of the speculation here is getting ridiculous and this giving me very bad memories of that final twilight movie!

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    91. Well, the absolute WORST would be if Jon came back this season, got killed again at the end of season 6 and we were left wondering again if he comes back in season 7 :)))))

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    92. I anticipate kit will have a way to explain he is telling the truth after all.

      Kit’ll have a way of explaining this. Grrm has reiterated many times that being dead changes people. So when he’s back that might mean part of his mind in a dead body. So playing a dead body will be some of his best work. When he says I’m not coming back it’s Jon Snow is not coming back. It’s a changed character with somewhat different motivations. That’s my 5 cents any way.

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    93. alienarea,

      Forgot to add. When Rhaegar took off with Lyanna, the White Walkers were sound asleep in the Lands of Always Winter, they wouldn’t have been roaming around beyond the Wall, let alone in the Riverlands or Dorne where Rhaegar and Lyanna were. And there would have been carnage and plenty of accounts of their presence otherwise. But there’s nothing. White Walkers have never set foot south of The Wall. Not yet. The Wall is there for that very reason. Honestly people think twice before coming up with these nonsensical theories.

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    94. harlequeen,

      He knows it’s not Jon because Hibberd was at the actual battle while they filmed. He would know what clothes Kit wore, how Kit’s hair was styled (which btw is in a bun in the leaked picture), and he would know what color horse Kit was riding. So if he says that it’s not Kit, then it’s not Kit. He’s been HBO’s mouthpiece for interviews and cast opinions, but they haven’t yet asked him to straight up lie.

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    95. I think Theon’s gonna be one of the surviving people up to book 7.

      “What is dead may never die but rises again harder and stronger.”

      Ramsay didn’t “kill” Theon. Even in his darkest hours Reek (Theon) knew who he was.

      I’m looking forward to book!Theon and show!Theon (in the coming seasons).

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    96. White Walkers will only be able to set foot on Westerosi soil if The Wall falls. It’s the magical defense system against them, they have to deal with that first.

      El-Bobbie,

      You can’t possibly know what they asked, ask or will ask of him to do.
      The man-bun is likely in between takes, and the hair’s loose during filming btw.

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    97. harlequeen:
      alienarea,

      Forgot to add. When Rhaegar took off with Lyanna, the White Walkers were sound asleep in the Lands of Always Winter, they wouldn’t have been roaming around beyond the Wall, let alone in the Riverlands or Dorne where Rhaegar and Lyanna were. Andthere would have been carnage and plenty of accounts of their presence otherwise. But there’s nothing. White Walkers have never set foot south of The Wall. Not yet. The Wall is there for that very reason. Honestly people think twice before coming up with these nonsensical theories.

      How do you know they were asleep? Are you GRRM?

      Mance Rayder obviously fought them before the events of the first book.

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    98. King Tyrion I,

      In books, i believe Theon will survive up to book 7 too, beside that words, it’s also because Theon wants do die and who get what they wish in westero?

      In show, i’m not so sure, at this point, they can do anything, really, anything, sometime without complete logic (sorry for being a book snob & bashing the show a little bit here, still quite bitter for what they’ve done to Stannis storyline)

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    99. Kit’s acting must have really improved if he has you guys doubting all the evidence! Good job Kit Snow!

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    100. Maybe Jon is dead and Kit won’t come back as anything more than a corpse. Maybe Jon is dead and Kit will come back as a corpse that doesn’t speak any dialogue but walks and even fights. Or… when they burn Jon’s corpse, he is reborn… as a dragon.

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    101. harlequeen,

      No way. A couple of my best friends do hair and make-up for television and film, and they would never allow an actor to put their hair up in a ponytail or bun in between takes. And ESPECIALLY for curly hair which is so delicate. If you have shots of his hair loose and curly, and then put it in a bun, when he releases it again it’s going to either be frizzy or the curls will let out. It won’t look the same. And for Kit, there’s been interviews with the GOT hairdresser who says he does style his hair and put product it in. An actor spends time in hair and makeup for a reason, he’s not going to mess with his look between takes.

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    102. JemFX: Couldn’t it also be the case that John Snow is not coming back THIS season, but next season? Independent of whether as Snow, Stark, or Stark/Targaryen. Maybe Davos smuggles his body somewhere and keeps it safe – until some plan is realized how to get him back after Melisandre failed. This would certainly fit with comments D&D made shortly after the season 5 finale aired and said: Jon will not come back “next” season, but left unanswered the question about season 7.

      Also, I did not see the picture in Stark armour and do not want to see it as spoilers are one thing – but to spoil the whole season is just pointless (and I sometimes wished people used spoiler tags for sharing this info over and over again so that even I read it although I actively tried to avoid it but, of course, still like discussing and reading comments).

      Aside from that, the picture could then just represent one of Bran’s visions. I know some people think it is naive to in any way believe Kit’s utterances. Yet, a ressurection in season 7 could well be possible.

      Another question, is there any info about Dan West? The best friend and flatmate of Kit who wrote three scripts with Kit and sold already two of them? Have found no info yet. Thx!

      PS: Love speculation – hope I’m wrong concerning my JS conjecture.

      Kit has properly been hanging around in Belfast or Northern Ireland more then any other actor for season 6. He has been seen there during times when they were shooting scenes at Castle Black and Winterfell. He has been seen there in July, September, October, November and December. As far as I can recall he was really seen more then anyone else. That being said people where specifically looking out for him. But it also shows that he must have a relatively substantial story arc for season 6.
      The picture with Jon in Stark armor is not from a vision, Jon has never fought any previous battles in the North with Stark armor while wearing Longclaw. It cant be a future vision because what would the point be of showing him alive if he is suppose to be dead?

      Alexa: Well, the absolute WORST would be if Jon came back this season, got killed again at the end of season 6 and we were left wondering again if he comes back in season 7 :)))))

      If Kit was absolutely, 100% speaking the truth about this situation then technically it would work if he was killed off again in season 7. But that would be incredibility bad story telling.

      Kit isn’t busy giving testimony in a court, he is speaking to the press about an upcoming season of GoT that is strictly not allowed to be spoiled.
      For the first couple of months he said that he did not do any filming for season 6. Now we can obviously see that is simply not the case, since his appearance in the season 6 trailer. Now he says he is only playing a corpse. But we also know that he was one of the group A actors who signed a 7 year contract. Last year at one stage there was also an interview where he said that GoT would be a part of his life until he is past his thirties.

      There is only 4 weeks left until the season starts at this I do think it highly likely that he is just lying. The season will start soon enough and one he is resurrected people will mainly focus on that and soon forget about these interviews.

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    103. Kit Hairyton,

      Agree! I always loved Kit’s acting. Did it looked a bit….stiff…wooden, In the early seasons? Yes.

      But Jon is a extremely difficult character to act. He is always stiff on the outside, he never really shows his emotions. Most of his conflict is internal, witch is always difficult to portray. But I think Kit did a amazing job, especially since S3. (most likely thanks to his great chemistry with Laslie)

      The fact that so many love Jon is, in my opinion, proof of Kit’s great interpretation of the character.

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    104. TheSnarkAtWinterfell,

      Thinking the same, too.

      We have a photo of Kit in Stark armor, we have Mel saying I saw him fighting in Winterfell or the North, we have Jon Snow saying “As if I went to sleep for a year, and when I woke up the worlds fallen apart”, and we have Kit saying he’s not coming back…what if he really isn’t? What if he’s going to come back season 7? But if he’s going to be in a battle at Winterfell, a year later…I don’t know which battle it’s going to be because this one that’s “going to break the internet” is supposed to be big and if anyone would guess, he should be in it and not another battle.

      What are your thoughts on this? There are many other clues as well

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    105. GeekFurious,

      He has a scene where he convinces the wildlings to fight with him against the Boltons, he’s also a part of the four-way tense meeting in Winterfell so he will be speaking. There’s no point in trying to fit the actor’s comments into the context of the show by coming up with these new, altered theories. Don’t put so much importance on promotional campaigns which are specifically designed to reach a desired reaction. The themes of this particular campaign are uncertainty, doubt, mystery and a huge plot twist the show-onlies, who don’t read off-season scoop, will find unexpected and shocking. Even some of those who do read spoilers are reacting the way HBO wants them to.

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    106. I hate to be mean but some of the posts here make a lot of you sound really gullible. But I guess it also shows that HBO and Kit know what they are doing to keep people guessing, when words can make them doubt actual evidence.

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    107. Next week Kit will be on the Jonathon Ross show, it will be interesting to see how he actually reacts to these types of questions in a face to face situation.
      When you just read an interview directly from the source there is no subtleties or context. When he says he will not return and that he is dead, he might be saying it with a smile and a wink for all we know.

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    108. Kamali,

      And they don’t even have to make an effort. A simple, short statement has people second guessing everything clear-cut they’ve learned and seen, even going so far as to defy logic. It’s so easy for them to elicit the fan reactions they aim for. My advice to those fans, take a firm stance and stick to it.

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    109. Well, I can’t say I have followed all those sightings/filming information/photos and other speculations, nor do I pay particular attention to interviews, but I do think that there is one thing speaking for a possible Jon Snow participation in the new series (in whatever form, alive, reborn, resurrected, you name it) and that is that I do not see how the Wildlings would follow anyone else but him into battle.
      But you lucky ones have only a couple of weeks to wait and see for yourselves… Woe to us in the rest, non HBO-compatible world.

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    110. Boudica: That is always the problem with this type of situation. At some point people will just get frustrated. I really hope this resurrection takes place in the first or second episode, dragging it out any longer will just make people more fatigued.

      10 months between seasons does this kind of cliffhanger no favors either.

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    111. TheSnarkAtWinterfell,

      It’s because there are a lot of people like you who will in the end be convinced or at least on the edge about it, but believe it or not Jon Snow is dead and will be resurrected by Melisandre.

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    112. El-Bobbie,

      Hibberd is HBO’s spokesperson for thrones. So of course he would say that. Anyone with eyes could see that figure was Jon. He gets great info because of this but says what HBO wants him to say.

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    113. If he really is not coming back – in any form – what was the purpose of Jon Snow’s character? I know, this has been discussed many times already – but really – what’s the point. In the end, he brought some wildings south of the wall and helped Sam. That’s it.
      The build-up of a character over five seasons (or books) just for that does not make any sense. It’s nice for a show to surprise it’s audience – if this serves a storytelling-pupose, but building up a character like this just for killing him off when nobody suspects it and thereby leaving so many hints and references pointless, would be just unprofessional storytelling. If you apply the same logic – Dany, Tyrion or Arya for example should expect to die at any point – something that is (almost) surely never going to happen.
      In that context, the most contradictory part ist Jon Snow’s parentage (also discussed a hundred times). If he stays dead, it simply does not make any sense showing the toj-flashback – which is now 100% confirmed. It would render the pretty well established fact useless, that Ned Stark clearly did not father Jon (the latest hint about that being Stannis’ remark to his wife in season 5 – of it not being Ned Stark’s way).
      Who cares, that Jon Snow’s mother was Lyanna Stark (and his father maybe a Targaryen), if his character is gone for good (again as Jon Snow or Jon Stark or whatever).

      I like the show a lot – but if what Harington says turns out to be true – i will really try not watch the show this year but rather read the episode summaries. Because this would not be good story telling (even though Oly delivered that final stab).

      One last thing – if they really wanted there to be no doubt about Kit’s Character gone for good – why didn’t they just put his death in Episode 509 – like they did with Robb and Catelyn. That way, they could have established his death or rather his permanent departure from Thrones by showing his body being burned (or something like that) in Episode 510. The argument, that they wanted it to remain uncertain for cliffhanger-purposes and to build up suspense for the next season has to be ruled out because already in july 2015 almost everybody on the show (esp. David Nutter and D&D) made it clear, that Jon Snow was dead.

      Of course there is the possibility, that they come up with an explanation which ties all those (otherwise useless) plot points together and makes sense – even if Harington is gone for good. But i really doubt that.

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    114. ygritte,

      I’d like you not to worry so much! Kit might be the silent, melancholic type, it doesn’t mean that he’s unhappy. And he’s very good at keeping secrets. Remember that he says almost nothing about his relationship with Rose. Yes, it can mean that’s an on and off relationship, but he simply could choose not to speak about his personal life willingly. He pretends for earning his daily bread… he is perfectly able to stick to lie. More than that, it’s a lie stipulated in his contract.
      So, see you in April, eh, Kit?

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    115. I think Kit has to toe the party line on what he says, as other people have already pointed out.

      This is off-topic somewhat. I was watching an old Inspector Lynley mystery TV show over the weekend and saw a young Burn Gorman (Karl Tanner actor) in it – this would be from about 11 years ago. I looked up Burn Gorman on Wikipedia and was surprised to see he was born in Hollywood (apparently his father was a lecturer at UCLA at the time).
      I don’t deliberately go in for spotting GoT actors before they were on GoT but when I see one in something else I mentally go ‘oh he/she is so-and-so from GoT’.

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    116. Kit Hairyton,

      To add one more argument:
      I know GOT is not your typical tv-show, but still, how many cliffhangers involving a major character have you seen that end up in this character dying for real?
      As GuestComment mentioned, I really think that a death for good would be part of episode 9 of the fifth series.

      But as you say, let’s keep an open mind!

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    117. D’Arcy:
      A darker Theon storyline? I mean, how much darker can you get?

      Came to say this. Happy to see I’m nowhere near the only one to have exactly that thought after reading the headline and the interview quote. Honestly, after the last three seasons, I expected a lighter one for Theon.

      Also, considering the spoilers about Theon’s storyline…

      I can’t imagine in which way it could possibly get darker for Theon. Yara may manipulate him and Euron is a crazy arsehole, but neither of them are Ramsay.

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    118. At this point it’s Melisandre’s arc that’s a big unknown not Jon’s. There’s more mystery left about her journey in season 6 and beyond. We know Carice hasn’t filmed much for this season, but her arc is apparently amazing, that whatever scenes she’s in were filmed in complete secrecy, that there’s some huge surprise with her in episode 1, there’s that single photo of her leaving CB with some companions, there’s the fact Carice’s pregnant and that’s about it.

      I don’t recall where I’ve read it (might have even been here) but when they were shooting the interior ToJ sequence with possible Lyanna and Ned, the room was cleared to only the bare minimum of people who had to be there in order to film the scene. They are really going all out on the secrecy about certain plot twists.

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    119. TheSnarkAtWinterfell: It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to still be insisting he isnt coming back in order to preserve the shock value of when he does, if basically everyone in the fandom believes he is coming back anyway. The “lots of offers” is troubling too.

      Some of us in the fandom always forget that we are a tiny, tiny minority of the whole viewership. Most of the audience hasn’t seen or heard about those spoilers. To just come out and say “Okay guys, you got us; he’ll be resurrected” would be absolutely crazy and it would piss off a lot of people.

      cozmeesah: They know damn well that a lot of the online fans believe he is coming back. If they convince 5% of them otherwise by doing this, they’re doing their job.

      That, too. Apparently even some of the people who have seen the evidence are slowly being convinced by these interviews. So they do double duty!

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    120. Freyjoy,

      This is John Bradley’s quote from the article you linked. What is he talking about?

      “You definitely find them in a positive place at the start,” says John Bradley, who plays Sam. So, it all goes wrong? “Well, they stumble across an obstacle very early and we don’t quite know whether Sam knew about it and is only now telling Gilly, or whether it didn’t occur to him. But jeopardy kicks in within seconds of them starting their journey basically.”

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    121. Kit Hairyton,

      Sansa is joining the battle with Littlefinger and the Vale army, not the Northern ones.

      Luka Nieto,

      Yes, it’d be illogical and counterproductive to backtrack on the issue with less than a month away after having spent so much time doing whatever they can to protect the twist. Those interviews are not for the marginal group, which is us, spoiler-readers, but for the Unsullied. The misdirection will continue until the very last moment before the big reveal.

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    122. Freyjoy:
      Some new tidbits from a new interview at the guardian:

      http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/mar/28/game-of-thrones-jon-snow-arya-the-assassin-everything-we-know-about-season-six

      There’s some quotes and tidbits I had not seen from Dean Charles Chapman, Isaac Hempstead-Wright, Maisie Williams, John Bradley, Iwan Rheon, Liam Cunningham and Carice van Houten. Including more John Snow denial.

      This one is particularly interesting to me:

      “You definitely find them in a positive place at the start,” says John Bradley, who plays Sam. So, it all goes wrong? “Well, they stumble across an obstacle very early and we don’t quite know whether Sam knew about it and is only now telling Gilly, or whether it didn’t occur to him. But jeopardy kicks in within seconds of them starting their journey basically.”

      At a guess, Gilly won’t be allowed into the Citadel because she’s a woman, so that will be the reason they need to go to Horn Hill, just as Sam plans in the books?

      There’s also this:

      “This season we see Arya get a series of tasks from Jaqen, which she has to carry out blind,” says Maisie Williams of her assassin-in-training. “She struggles a lot and finds the challenges very unfair, but ultimately she learns a lot of skills she’ll take with her in a very big way.”

      Hopefully warging is one of those skills!

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    123. harlequeen:

      Can you imagine if there was no show? 5 years and counting on ADWD’s cliffhanger.

      If there was no show, maybe GRRM would have finished TWOW sooner. No pressure, no speculation, no convention appearances, no distractions or excuses.

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    124. Luka Nieto: This one is particularly interesting to me:

      At a guess, Gilly won’t be allowed into the Citadel because she’s a woman, so that will be the reason they need to go to Horn Hill, just as Sam plans in the books?

      He says jeopardy kicks in within seconds of their leaving though. Unless that’s just exaggeration? Besides, Jon and Sam had a discussion in last season’s finale, where Jon tells him that the Citadel will make him swear off women too. So Sam already knew that Gilly would not be allowed in the Citadel.

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    125. George: People, there are MANY spoilers from this site and others of Kit filming multiple times last year; so yea, the “mummer’s farce” will soon be over, either at the end of episode 1 or in episode 2, at the latest.

      Yes!! Great info in this site and Los 7 Reinos 🙂

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    126. ghost of winterfell: So Sam already knew that Gilly would not be allowed in the Citadel.

      Which is exactly what the actor implies, that Sam might have already known about it, though Gilly didn’t. Not unlike in the books, if I remember correctly.

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    127. It’s a good thing we know it’s a dead horse they’re beating because by now one could not recognize it as such.

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    128. Flora Linden,

      Nah 2005-2011 there was no show (only the production of s1 for a period of time), yet people still had to wait that long between AFFC and ADWD.

      Maybe it’s Sam’s seasickness that’s making their journey doubly difficult.

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    129. I am extensively sick of this cabal, that HBO know once and for all: GoT without Jon is ‘NOTHING, NO HISTORY REACHES LEVELS OF INTEREST, EMPATHY AND BEAUTY as history of Jon and The North,and Jon’s family,true family.HBO and D&D :You understand? Without Jon who would still see with much hype GoT? anyone !!!!!
      Enough!

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    130. Shy Lady Dragon,

      Hey Shy one, I was hoping you’d drop by and chime in! After I wrote that post I saw some new photos on a blog where Kit is kissing Rose at a party, hanging out with my previous man crush McAvoy, and flipping the bird while making those goofy gangsta type faces at the camera with his buddies. They’re saying “Guess he feels free to let loose and be himself now that he’s off GOT and doesn’t have to maintain a certain image.” More fuel for speculation? Tbh, I’m all speculated out lol. I’ll just wait and see, it won’t be long now. Off to catch some zzz’s now. Have a wonderful day 🙂

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    131. Luka Nieto,

      Bradley also said that maybe that thought never occurred to Sam before, in the same sentence. That’s why I said that. But yeah, he is most likely talking about Gilly not being allowed in the Citadel.

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    132. Oh ye of little faith. On top of all the evidence mentioned up thread, the interview with David Benioff posted on this site last week reported he was “most angry” about the TOJ scene filming being leaked, and even more so, he’s mad at the guy who played Comando to shoot the Jon Stark is alive photo.

      Why would he give a shit if Jon was really dead?

      Kit is just doing his Job — lying for a living.

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    133. Don’t bring an actor’s personal life and private time off the set, red carpets and promo campaigns into this. This is not TMZ. It has no relevance.

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    134. D’Arcy,

      Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. I mean, what could happen to Theon that’s possibly darker than betraying your surrogate family and the being tortured for years to the point that you’re brainwashed?

      As to Kit’s regular denials, we have to wonder what purpose they serve at this point. With the countless articles and interviews with everyone on the show saying he’s really dead — and reminding everyone that there is serious speculation in that department — is anyone, even the most out of touch casual viewer, actually going to be surprised when he’s resurrected? At first, it made sense. but it’s grown to the point that everyone has heard about it. I would think that a simple “Wait and see” would be just as effective in getting them clickbait publicity.

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    135. TheSnarkAtWinterfell,

      You know I’m starting to think you might be on to something there…at this point in time why keep denying it? Bran can see, “what might have been,” right? If that’s the case it would explain a lot.
      Now I’m truly scared he won’t be back…RIP, Jon Snow?

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    136. I feel much is in the hands of researchers who compile the information on which questions will be based. Asking about a character who’s been killed-off will only get responses appropriate to that character.
      For Kit to reveal what happens in the show, with regard to his character…. I mean, come on. Major spoiler alert! If you’re returning as a different character, albeit, approximately the same person, why give the plot away? I don’t know about anyone else, but, I’m saying, Well played, Kit!

      We’re about to have revealed several of the incidents concerning Jon. Several theories will be proven or destroyed. Personally, I think ‘Jon Snow’ could have a very different name when it’s revealed. The show will probably simplify it for convenience.

      Back in season 1, when Ned & Jon last spoke to each other, what was Ned’s words? “You may not have my name, but you have my blood.” – “The next time we meet, we’ll talk about your mother.” Clearly that told us who was one part in Jon’s parentage. Jon’s mother is Lyanna Stark. One part of the theory easily proven. But, is it? Ned had brothers too. What if the twist…..? Drat and blast! Ran out of tin foil to make a hat!

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    137. David H,

      You’re wrong, most viewers don’t expect a resurrection, they don’t know what spoiler-readers know, and they don’t spend time speculating/weighing in options.

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    138. Nathanbc22: I do believe he is coming back (definitely in the books) However on the show….that bit of doubt sneaks in when I read an interview like this.

      That would be hilarious if Jon was resurrected in some form in the books but not in the show, with a comment from HBO stating that was the reason why they named this series “Game of Thrones” and not “The Song of Ice and Fire”.

      I continue to live in denial. 🙂

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    139. Actually I believe his coming back in the books isn’t a foregone conclusion like it’s on the show. There’s a big chance he stays as Ghost for the remainder of the series.

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    140. harlequeen:
      Actually I believe his coming back in the books isn’t a foregone conclusion like it’s on the show. There’s a big chance he stays as Ghost for the remainder of the series.

      Interesting. Given ADwD’s prologue, we know that a “human” warg’s spirit eventually gets integrated completely into the warged host…but what if the warged host also served as a passive placeholder for the warg’s soul, requiring a powerful third party (deity) to extract and return it to a human vessel? Given Jon’s minimal warging capability (if any in the show), he may get help performing the initial “transfer” as well. Hmmmm…

      The first PoV chapter in TWoW will be Ghost or Bran…or The Red Priestess. 🙂

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    141. David H:
      D’Arcy,

      — is anyone, even the most out of touch casual viewer, actually going to be surprised when he’s resurrected?At first, it made sense.but it’s grown to the point that everyone has heard about it.

      Millions and millions of people all around the world watch this show.Plenty of them haven’t even seen the trailer.It’s enough to look at my family and people I know to see this.My parents haven’t seen it,not even my sister yet,only my brother.From work most older folks who watch the show haven’t seen the trailer,I only talked about it with the secretary and another younger friend.And it’s not only about age,many people just watch the show when it’s out.This is the official trailer I’m talking about!Not filming spoilers and stuff like that.We,the fans that know all the spoilers,are just a minority compared to how many people watch this show.
      So yes,if Jon comes back it’s a huge moment for many watchers,even completely unexpected for some.It may not be unexpected for us but it’s still very big.HBO’s strategy on this one seems normal to me,I would do the same.

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    142. Kit has said from day one, Jon’s dead and I’m not coming back. If he even slightly deviates from that now, the jig is up. A maybe is as good as confirmation.

      Jon Stark will rise.
      The biggest reveal (apart from the obvious) is the fact that his death came at the end of episode 10. Think about it, most ‘big’ deaths happen at the end of episode 9, then the 10th episode deals with the aftermath. Theres a reason his death was a cliff-hanger.

      Plus, I’ve never seen a corpse play such a prominent role in a trailer.

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    143. You know I think I’d love to go drinking with Liam, but if I read another interview from him or Alfie I might bang my head into a wall. I just have overload from them.

      Give me a Lena interview, or Maisie, a little Gwendoline or Nikolaj. Hell, what about some Jonathan Pryce and Diana Rigg?

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    144. phantomstrife:
      We had the same discussion about basically the same sounding interview a week ago. Nothing has changed in this regard. He keeps doing his job and we’re just going around in circles. The same people voice their doubts again, the same people clear those doubts. It’s like groundhog day. Thankfully soon we won’t have to endure this farce anymore.

      Do you lie away at night, thinking about everyone being stupid, except yourself?

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    145. HotPinkLipstick,

      I’d certainly like to go drinking with Liam, but while drinking I wouldn’t mind him telling me all the stuff he tells to journalists. Liam drunk, insisting on Jon Snow cliches must be funny. Damn! Now I regret I don’t have the chance to go drinking with Liam!
      I’d love to read interviews with all the people you mention, I wonder why there are not more with them. I really enjoyed reading about Nikolaj’s family and mountain biking. I think I have never read an interview with Diana Rigg.

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    146. Shy Lady Dragon,

      Oh, being a little drunk with Liam in a bar and having him tell these stories? Excellent because you know he’d be flirting like mad and I’m for that. Reading Liam say the same things? Not so much.

      And while I think Alfie is a great actor, I don’t think his interviews show any charisma at all.

      As to that Nikolaj spread with the mountain bikes? It might have taken me four viewings before I could actually read it and not be distracted by the hotness.

      I think Diana Rigg would give great interview.

      One of my problems, of course, is that the interviewers as the same questions over and over. Mindy Kaling did a Star Wars panel before TFA came out and it was great because she didn’t ask the same stupid questions. I liked questions like, “Do any of you have a walk-on song like sports stars for when you go on set?” and “In whose trailer did you all congregate to get high?”

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    147. So Jon snow is dead and isn’t coming back,is kit Harrington of game off thrones for good that’s the question but they don’t ask it or are told not to. I personally believe he will back as who that is the question also I believe grr martin didn’t finish the wow or publish the book because it would spoil the cliffhanger of Jon’s death and resurrection before the season 6 premiere and HBO and the whole gang are together on it.it’s all about publicity and MONEY.

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    148. HotPinkLipstick,

      I don’t say how much it took me to read the whole Nikolaj interview… but finally I saved the pictures. I usually save the GOT related ones I like and I have tons with Nikolaj, Gwendoline, Pedro and others.
      While watching and rewatching I’m amazed what a good actor Alfie is. I was surprised though to notice that I find him charismatic in interviews.

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    149. TheSnarkAtWinterfell,

      I know…. How many times must he say it before I start to think maybe he’s not lying? And let me tell you, if Jon Snow is well and truly dead in both book and show, I will be so pissed! One of the best characters ever.

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    150. I think all those who have believed for years that Jon Snow will be resurrected, are going to be left heavily disappointed. This is Game of Thrones, it is not going to go the way everyone is believing it will. Kit Harrington is arrogant, which is why I never really took to him, even though Jon Snow is an interesting character (not the most interesting however). I don’t think he is trying to convince us against the resurrection theory, I think he is definitely done with the show, for if he was coming back, he wouldn’t be point blank saying, he is done with the show, he’d be avoiding the questions with answers like, ”I don’t know, but my character is dead that’s all I know”. Instead, he has made it crystal clear now on several occasions ”I’m not coming back, I’m done with Game of Thrones now”. It doesn’t get more clearer than that, his character is never coming back in any shape or form or different name.

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    151. This thread is the reason Kit keeps lying, and why it works. On a fan site, where most posters have seen and read all of the evidence showing that Kit and Jon returns, there are still a lot of visitors who don’t believe it. Do you think it would be this way if Kit was evasive with all of the questions regarding Jon’s fate? Of course not. I’m glad this will all be answered in the next 6-7 weeks(I don’t think he is resurrected in the first couple of episodes).

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    152. Mischa:
      I think all those who have believed for years that Jon Snow will be resurrected, are going to be left heavily disappointed. This is Game of Thrones, it is not going to go the way everyone is believing it will. Kit Harrington is arrogant, which is why I never really took to him, even though Jon Snow is an interesting character (not the most interesting however). I don’t think he is trying to convince us against the resurrection theory, I think he is definitely done with the show, for if he was coming back, he wouldn’t be point blank saying, he is done with the show, he’d be avoiding the questions with answers like, ”I don’t know, but my character is dead that’s all I know”. Instead, he has made it crystal clear now on several occasions ”I’m not coming back, I’m done with Game of Thrones now”. It doesn’t get more clearer than that, his character is never coming back in any shape or form or different name.

      Boy you are easily duped.

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    153. Mischa:
      I think all those who have believed for years that Jon Snow will be resurrected, are going to be left heavily disappointed. This is Game of Thrones, it is not going to go the way everyone is believing it will. Kit Harrington is arrogant, which is why I never really took to him, even though Jon Snow is an interesting character (not the most interesting however). I don’t think he is trying to convince us against the resurrection theory, I think he is definitely done with the show, for if he was coming back, he wouldn’t be point blank saying, he is done with the show, he’d be avoiding the questions with answers like, ”I don’t know, but my character is dead that’s all I know”. Instead, he has made it crystal clear now on several occasions ”I’m not coming back, I’m done with Game of Thrones now”. It doesn’t get more clearer than that, his character is never coming back in any shape or form or different name.

      would be such great storytelling if all of this is true. “irony off”

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    154. Shy Lady Dragon,

      There are several sites that store the Nikolaj photos. And I think one or two that has a lot of Nikolaj and Gwendoline because come on, Jaime and Brienne have best chemistry in the show.

      I’m just experiencing interview burnout.

      I definitley have Jon Snow-fatigue.

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    155. Perhaps Kit is slyly referring to not coming back after season 6. Maybe Jon Snow gets rezzed, serves his purpose and either dies for good or morphs into something else. I keep recalling what Beric Dondarrion said about losing parts of himself after every rebirth.

      We shall see.

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    156. dragonbringer,

      Yes, I am curious about how these comments will be explained. He’s not just saying, “Jon Snow is dead”, he keeps saying, “I’m not coming back”. But he told an interviewer last fall, “I’ll be with the show at least until I’m in my thirties”, or something like that. He’s 28.

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    157. Marco:
      Jon Snow is the Schrodinger’s cat of Game of Thrones.
      But seriously: Kit’s answers are always the same. What is surprising to me is the fact that questions remain the same, too. Why?
      Imagine you’re a journalist and you’re about to do an interview with the actor that plays an iconic character on an iconic TV show.
      Even if you’re not a fan, you must be professional enough to know already about the leaked photo and other appearances on set, and the thousands of fans eager for more information.It’s all over the net! But not one reporter confronts him with this information. No one ever asks him something obvious like ‘OK, you’re dead, fine, so that leaked photo is just a flashback scene, right?’
      That’s because journalists are playing this game, too.
      I bet every interview with Kit stars with some off-the-record conversation…

      Actually, there’s a simple answer to this question. The following is a translated quote from the 2015_09_25 interview with Kit from Paris Match:

      While season 6 is filming in Belfast, the English actor can be seen nearby: flashback, real return, or visit to the buddies? . . . Serene, Kit gently passes his hand through his shoulder-length hair, . . . and looks at you. He knows that the question burns our lips, but HBO has ordered us not to ask it. To remove the mystery, one solution: wait until next spring.

      (emphasis mine)

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    158. Ooo, I get it now! Kit keeps lying so we’ll be reminded of the tale of The Boy Who Cried Wolf because his tale will be The Boy Who Died Wolf to be Reborn Azor Ahai.

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    159. shay:
      Kit is STILL trying!? This is getting pathetic.

      Yep. In fact, in his very first interview after 5.10 aired, Kit had already said he was done with the show. This was before the multitude of spoilers we have now for Kit filming a bunch of stuff for season 6…

      For those somehow convinced now that Kit won’t be back…

      Everyone has seen the Wildlings opposing the Boltons in a battle in the trailers, yes?

      Exactly who do you expect to lead this Wildling army? Sansa? Davos? Mel? A somehow resurrected Stannis glamored as Mance? Undead Mance? Undead Stannis? Why would a Wildling army be attacking Winterfell? Why?

      It’s Jon, people.

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    160. Rella,

      SPOILERS

      Only issue with your point is there clearly is a scene w Jon, Sansa, Littlefinger, and Ramsay. That doesn’t really sound like a pre-battle conversation based on the news we know. If he dies in battle I doubt he is in that scene. So the big question is, will he die again in a different way?

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    161. kells,

      Davos’ Luck,

      I agree! Honestly if he is, who would the readers/watchers care about to stop the walkers? No one left in the north I would care for. No one is even familiar with what is required to beat em. Look if Jon is dead, go Wights!

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    162. Ravyn,

      That’s a good point. Maybe that is why Melisandre is stripping, John may take over her body in the interim and they put his body in the wall to freeze and so preserve it until they get a better priest later on who resurrects him into his own body, this killing Melisandre and being born from ice.

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    163. Lut,

      One thing to note is Alfie Allen has been a bad interview the past years. He always gave spoilers away and HBO and the producers actually shut him down at one point last year or year before. Yes, Theon could die, but I think we haven’t heard much from Alfie until this year is because he wasn’t allowed to interview.

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    164. If johns body is frozen for most of the season and he is “living” in Melisandre, then he can be glamored to lead the wildlings or else be resurrected at the very end of the season to lead the wildlings into battle and so John would technically be telling the truth in all these interviews as Melisandre would be playing him all season.

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    165. harlequeen: Maybe it’s Sam’s seasickness that’s making their journey doubly difficult.

      My thought as well. One of the stills released last month showed Sam holding a barf bucket in the hold of the ship.

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    166. Stargaryen,
      No one seems to have answered you so I will. Rather than repeat a potentially big spoiler here it’s in the March Madness HD trailer thread (two before this one). Read prt’s post from March 26, 2016 at 9:27 pm. Most people who commented on it seem to have taken it at face value, including alienarea by the looks of it (personally I have no clue one way or the other) 🙂

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    167. kells:
      You know, I didn’t think the writer’s would go there but now I am starting to thing they could go the necrophilia route.
      Hear me out. We saw Melisandre stripping in the trailer. If Jon is still warm (ha), who is to say she doesn’t have sex with his corpse to produce another “shadow” spawn that inhabits Jon’s body? Okay…that is a far, far stretch even for this show but if she realizes he is the real “Lord of Light”, she would do anything to do right by her God. She didn’t exactly look like the seductress when removing her clothes, she looked a bit conflicted.
      There has to be something behind Kit’s “I’m (Jon’s) not coming back”.
      Maybe Jon as we know him isn’t.
      Yeah…grasping at straws but I wouldn’t put it past this show to some necro action.

      As for Theon, I do like the character and completely sympathize with what he has gone through but come on. Theon has done some downright horrible things. Evil things. His continued torture has been horrible and heartbreaking but he is far from an innocent. I can’t imagine how it can get any darker for him but I have a feeling we may not have him around past this season.

      I like the theory, and I have a question for it: how would JS be able to pitch a tent

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    168. Or how about this, as my mind is on overdrive. John is warged into Mel using her magic and his body is stored on ice in the wall, thus fulfilling lots of visions and prophecies like the blue rose coming from the wall etc. Davos has to stick close by Mel/John then as he has already said in interviews and he now follows John, in Mels guise. The wildlings smash the gates of Winterfell defeating the NW so that Johns body can be safely stored in the wall ready for a resurrection either at the end of this season or next season. Maybe McShane resurrects him and not the Hound as everyone suspects? Either way, John will not appear in this season except as a body but still be “alive”

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    169. At this point I am so sick of hearing about Jon Snow that I hope he is dead and we can just be done with it.

      Has anyone ever thought that maybe he is nothing more than a ‘vision’ now? History as an ill defined concept that can change based on one action is a thread I see in the series all over- and perhaps our eagerness to see a narrative in a straight pattern is causing us all tunnel vision when it comes to the Bastard of Winterfell.

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    170. Some people here a hope they are like 12-14 years old for their own good.

      Of course jon will be back, how can someone think other thing with all we have??? And their arguments question it is so…. Wow. Pit.

      So a hope you are really young or……i have really bad news for these people.

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    171. Flora Linden: If there was no show, maybe GRRM would have finished TWOW sooner. No pressure, no speculation, no convention appearances, no distractions or excuses.

      I did some regression using nothing but the number of days between publication dates, ignoring the first book because the first book typically seems to be an outlier (with the extra setup) and because I couldn’t find a precise start date (only year). The publication based only on linear regression of the dates between published books would be September 21, 2018. This date doesn’t surprise me because the length he’s taking to write books seems to be on the rise.

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    172. Why would they resurrect Jon Snow only to kill him again in the end of the season. That would be terrible writing, in my opinion, totally kills the build up to his character.

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    173. Connor,

      ita. Raising him then killing him the same season is silly, but less silly than letting him stay dead, what with all the foreshadowing, the mystery about his birth, his generally unfinished story. That would be terrible story telling. Also, who is left in the North to lead the battle against the Boltons, if Jon stays dead?? Sansa? Davos? Mel? Tormund?

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    174. But the idea of building him up to be the ‘saviour’ of the world and having him be that – with maybe a death in the middle – is super boring… We had it all figured out ages ago…

      However- having him be the ‘saviour’ of Westoros that never got to save Westoros leaves Westoros in a crazy scramble to save itself. That is where true heros arise. That is the story I want to see. At what point does a society give up hope?

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    175. Maria,

      As far as leading the charge against the Boltons: Sansa- she is the heir until Bran and Rickon claim. The North Remembers, and they can be sneaky…Davos could do what he does best, and the Wildlings love a good fight- not to mention the ‘warden or wardess of the north’ could gift them lands.

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    176. Amanda Lou,

      First, Dany is sadly the Savior, so I doubt very much that Westeros will be left to save itself. For Jon, there is a middle ground between being savior and being dead.

      As for Northern leaders: Sansa is not yet mature enough to do it. Arya is on Essos, and she’s a loner assassin. Bran is in a tree. Rickon is a kid. We have met no other Northern lords but the Boltons, so having Manderly, say, appear out of the blue to lead the wildlings, of all people, makes zero sense. Davos is not a Northerner. Mel? No.

      It’s got to be Jon.

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    177. Oh gawd I hope it’s not Dany! We don’t know what is going to happen. However, as much as I have ‘come around’ to Sansa- I think she is plenty ‘mature’ unite her homeland- more so than Dany is likely to unite anything this side of the sea.

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    178. Amanda Lou,
      Yeah, Dany, ew. idk. I had high hopes for Sansa last season, but sadly she’s moving very slowly out of damsel in distress status. I’d love it if she suddenly matured to the point where she could lead.

      What’s stumping me is that going by the trailer, wildlings are fighting the Boltons for Winterfell, which is just weird, as why would they, without Jon? Jon had a very close relationship with them, and Tormund trusted him, so he and Jon might lead them. I doubt wildlings would follow Sansa or Davos to Winterfell. Their allegiance was to Jon, not to the Starks. Winterfell without Jon would mean nothing to them. A Northern lord leading wildlings against other Northern lords is especially hard to accept. A more likely scenario is Northerners putting aside their hostilities to unite against the wildlings.

      But if that’s true, why would Jon, Tormund, Davos, Sansa, or anyone lead a bunch of badly armed and undisciplined wildlings against Northern armies? Stannis cut through tens of thousands of wildlings like butter. It’d be suicidal.

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    179. Connor,

      Yeah it would be terrible writing. In “our” opinion. But we aren’t the ones who wrote the story. And if it does happen that way, we don’t yet know the how and why’s of it.

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    180. Shy Lady Dragon,

      You do this too? Save pictures and stuff? I don’t feel so bad now 🙂 But I do, cause I recently deleted them 🙁 I had a folder that was growing to rather large proportions and it made me question some things about myself, so I clicked delete on the whole thing. There was some beautiful HD photography in there too. (Ok I mostly did it because my husband is a nosy hacker and likes to tease me, errr, lol.)

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    181. Honestly, as a book reader and fan of the show, if Jon Snow is actually dead and the whole R & L = J thing is a load of nonsense then I’m out.

      But we know it’s all bs. The creators of the show got the job by guessing the names of Jon’s parents.

      See you soon Kit you lying little bugger.

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    182. Now i think about it, no, i don’t think the article that i posted above is valid, and since i already missed the edit time, i don’t know how to delete it.

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    183. Jon Stark,

      The actor recently stated that he’d slipped into laziness playing Snow and that actors crave variety…..maybe he wanted time out for other stuff and D&D said that’s fine cause we’re not stuck to the books anymore so we’ll kill you off end of S6. (Which already filmed, hence the actor can say Jon’s dead and “He’s” not coming back to the show. Ya’ll can go on denyin’ but it is entirely possible Jon gets alive and then gets dead again later. Therefor he does get to find out his mom and pop name and gets to fight in great battle and turn down a title and whatever else we think he still needs to do. But it’s all the same to me anymore 🙂

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    184. Lut,

      The Tumblr in question looks like it’s a legit enough news site (or somebody is an insanely elaborate troll, even by troll standards).

      If so, yeah, they really need to stop Alfie from talking.

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    185. HotPinkLipstick,

      Don’t get angry with Liam for the new interview, please! He’s charming, the interviewers must enjoy his presence. And if they take him out for drinks after… 😉

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    186. tkk,

      “What we’ve got, and the misery we went through to shoot it, is going to be absolutely glorious. There’s going to be some stunning stuff coming. I mean really, really stunning.”

      It’s cool that Liam watches and has fun with it. So he gets in on the big battle, can’t wait to see him in action. All aboard the hype train! Chug-a-choo choo mudafaka’s.

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    187. Some of you watchers are just to far gone, good luck drowning in your theories. Haha always wanted to say that 😀

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    188. HotPinkLipstick:
      Can anyone (really, by anyone I mean Sue) confirm or deny the validity of this interview?

      (Big spoilers if it’s true)

      http://ians-in-yahoopartner.tumblr.com/post/141891740079/alfie-allen-reveals-fate-of-theon-sansa-in-game

      Not that it all doesn’t seem reasonable, but Alfie has been pretty tight-lipped to date.

      Those aren’t really big spoilers… this was shown in the trailer. Allen offered some details, but nothing we really didn’t know.

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    189. I think

      Brienne to the rescue has been guessed, but I don’t think it’s been confirmed. We know Brienne has a battle in the snow. We know Sansa and Theon are in the snow. We don’t know that Brienne actually rescues them. We also have seen Baelish in the snow. So this doesn’t account for that. I think it reads like a really good guess.[/spoilers]

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    190. Not sure where to post this: new write-up about Melissandre’s big moment in Episode 1.
      http://meshwired.com/game-thrones-season-6-premiere-will-feature-big-moment-shaken-melisandre/

      “Nevertheless, Melisandre is set to have a “pivotal role” in season six and [b]will undergo a transformation of sorts.” [/b]

      I wonder what this “transformation” will be. I am starting to get a weird feeling about this, especially when Carice says:

      “Yes, there was something that I was like, I knew it was coming at some point. People had talked about it before to me but I wasn’t sure when it was going to happen. This is really vague… it’s in episode one already.”

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    191. Read Kit’s VERY recent interview about becoming bored playing Jon. He states, and I quote:
      “All actors crave variety and there can be a laziness you slip into when you go back to a character every year, and I definitely slipped into it in the past. So there’s a point where you go, ‘I’m an actor. I got into this to play lots of different roles.’ I need to do everything possible in my ‘out’ period. That gap in series needs to be as challenging as possible. ”

      Pick up on it? The final line. “The gap in series needs to be as challenging as possible”. So his Faustas role, and The Death and Life of John F. Donovan are clearly work in his ‘out’ period, as he puts it.

      This interview was released online yesterday, btw, it isn’t some old quote that’s now irrelevant. He’s clearly slipped up here, but the interviewer didn’t have the sense (or guts) to push him on it.

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    192. oh oh people… I think Jon Snow will come back as champion of the white walkers raised by night king and fight for starks ( Kid playing in season 6 only the death body, another actor will play him as champion of white walker), Bran will see that Jon is now a champion of white walkes…
      and somehow after season 7 he will be killed by needle (Arya) to come back as song of ice and fire=kit harrington again ( probably Arya dies in this phase as bittersweet?)
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